Alabama loss to unranked TAM

SolarGarlic

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Perhaps Alabama should have slid a bit further. That said, there was absolutely no injustice done to ISU in its fall in/from the rankings. ISU was overhyped in the preseason both by the media and in-house. Alabama's status is very different based on years of domination.

For ISU, It's gonna be really hard to earn our way back into a 15 or higher ranking. One bitten, twice shy. Alabama will probably still make the playoff.

7-2, and we'd be back in the Top 15
 

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I’d have had a hard time dropping them further than 4.

if they win ugly next week I’d drop them another couple spots though.

college football just doesn’t play close enough schedules to drop and raise teams the same way
 

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Rankings are so stupid and one of the reasons I'm starting to enjoy NFL more than college. Iowa is not the 2nd best team in the nation. There are not four better teams than Alabama in the country. I hope whenever CFB hopefully goes to four 16 team conferences, they do away with rankings and just let the results on the field do the talking

I feel like you're contradicting yourself. So the rankings are stupid because they put an undefeated Iowa team currently over a 1-loss Alabama team?

Do you want the results on the field to do the talking or recruiting rankings/history/brand/reputation?

I agree that Iowa's #2 ranking isn't accurate and more a product of an odd season thus far. But I'm also 100% ok with them being ranked #2.
 
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7-2, and we'd be back in the Top 15

if Iowa stays top 5, and they’ve already played the toughest part of their schedule, we could be ranked pretty high if only loss is to them and a close loss where we had 200 more yards of offense than opponent.

a big nov 6 win will do a lot
 
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This is exactly the problem. Rankings are supposed to be about this team. I'm pretty sure this team has not played together since 2005, 2019, 2018, nor played 14 games, 46 games, 101 games, 24 games, 59 quarters, 15 games, etc...
This Alabama team is 5-1, and this Iowa State team is 3-2. I don't think it is a stretch to have Alabama ranked higher than Iowa State at this point in this season.
 

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Probably cost them a playoff spot unless they can beat Georgia in the SEC title.
Hypothetically, if Iowa wins out and then loses to Ohio State and Bama wins out and loses to Georgia, does 1 loss Iowa get in the playoff over 2 loss Bama?
A 2 loss Alabama team that does not win the SEC will definitely not get in the CFP. Heck, even a 2 loss Alabama that wins the SEC would be a long shot, since no team with 2 losses has made the Playoff to this point.
 

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As much as I hate SEC bias in the media, Bama is still Bama so they're going to get the benefit of the doubt after dropping a game. When was the last time Alabama lost two regular season games under Saban?
In 2019, Alabama lost to LSU and @ Auburn to finish 10-2 in the Regular Season. They went to the Citrus Bowl and beat Michigan. The previous 2 loss (or more) Regular Season was in 2010, when they went 9-3 in the Regular Season and went to the Citrus Bowl and beat Michigan State. They also went 6-6 in his first season in 2007 and went to the Independence Bowl and beat Colorado. So, it has happened 3 times.
 
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I feel like you're contradicting yourself. So the rankings are stupid because they put an undefeated Iowa team currently over a 1-loss Alabama team?

Do you want the results on the field to do the talking or recruiting rankings/history/brand/reputation?

I agree that Iowa's #2 ranking isn't accurate and more a product of an odd season thus far. But I'm also 100% ok with them being ranked #2.

Nah not contradicting myself at all. I want the results on the field to do the talking and there be no rankings or "playoff committee" that decides who gets to play for a championship. FBS college football is the only level of competitive football that doesn't let the results decide who plays.

My ideal scenario that probably won't happen but I wish it would. Four 16 team conferences, conference champ week is the de facto semi finals, champ from each conference goes to the playoff. Strictly results based and take the politics out of it.
 

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Nah not contradicting myself at all. I want the results on the field to do the talking and there be no rankings or "playoff committee" that decides who gets to play for a championship. FBS college football is the only level of competitive football that doesn't let the results decide who plays.

My ideal scenario that probably won't happen but I wish it would. Four 16 team conferences, conference champ week is the de facto semi finals, champ from each conference goes to the playoff. Strictly results based and take the politics out of it.

Agree completely - no human element at all in the selection process. Yeah it's not perfect and not fair that an 8-8 team wins an NFL division every once in a while and gets to host vs a 12-4 wild card (this new 17 game schedule is going to mess with me) but at least everyone knows the rules. With the CFP, the rules are always changing to fit the narrative/bias of the committee and it absolutely sucks.
 

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The rankings have never happened in a vacuum, brand, recent history, coach, recruits, etc. are always taken into account. And the part that will really make some of your heads explode is that they should take all that into account. 12-13 games isn't enough of a sample size to find the best 4 teams if you pretend everyone is equal to start.
 

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Nah not contradicting myself at all. I want the results on the field to do the talking and there be no rankings or "playoff committee" that decides who gets to play for a championship. FBS college football is the only level of competitive football that doesn't let the results decide who plays.

My ideal scenario that probably won't happen but I wish it would. Four 16 team conferences, conference champ week is the de facto semi finals, champ from each conference goes to the playoff. Strictly results based and take the politics out of it.

Gotcha. I would love a postseason like that.

I love the AP Poll, but I think a lot of people take it too seriously. It's just a week-by-week barometer, not some definitive take on who the actual best teams are. Arguing over who deserves to be 5 and 2 is dumb when it's only week 7.

The playoff committee is a joke, but their rankings are the only ones that matter.
 

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If one can't see that the polls are manipulated to get certain teams from certain conferences in playoff contention, they are blind.
 
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I think a lot of people are forgetting about Cincinnati. Nice road win over Notre Dame, sitting at 3, and will cream everybody left on their schedule.

My playoff prediction

1. Alabama (beats Georgia in close CCG)
2. Georgia
3. Cincinnati
4. Big 10 Champ (Ohio St or Iowa)

OU will lose before it's said and done. Watch them drop to 9 or 10 when that happens.

Cincinnati gets crushed by Georgia.
Big 10 team gets absolutely embarrassed by Bama

Georgia edges Bama in a shootout.
 

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No matter how dumb the Cyhawk arguments get on here or social media, its never reached the level of Alabama/SEC dumb