Rigged Officiating

[Cloneman89]

Regardless of the incompetence of the refs/replay several things stand out:
Brock istats are mediocre. Where are the WR’s?
Hold on to the f***ball!
Allowing the refs to be involved insures a loss. B12 officials are mostly incompetent and have zero accountability! Bowlsby and crew will do nothing as that would prove the incompetence. A Catch 22. Play better and win going away. Defense got exposed as a fraud. Secondary is non existent and WVU took advantage. Deliberate is weak and ineffective. 6-6 is most likely for this team.

 

[JM4CY]

Let’s say we accept your premise…and by all means, I agree, the officiating was terrible, but are other teams experiencing this, or is it just poor Iowa State?

Yes. No it isn’t. Okie st fans absolutely loathe big 12 officials and it goes beyond the spot on the last play against us. Listen to their post game pod on pistols firing.

 

[cayin]

ah that was the broadcast putting random stuff for brock's stats (might have been wvu's qb?)

oh I see it now, I was looking for something in the formations. Thanks.

 

[Jer]

We didn't lose because of the refs, although they may not have helped. We lost because we have subpart WRs outside of XH, we had no protection for Purdy, our D was slow to adapt, our D was slow to pursue, our D played too soft, and our offensive scheme didn't exploit Purdy often or early enough (like almost every game). Refs might have made things harder, but we could have won if we didn't come out flat and refuse to adapt in-game.

 

[Hestia_Abnegation11]

It's possible to lose because of multiple things. Would we have won if we had played better? Yes, of course, that's how it works. It's important to try and improve every game. But that doesn't mean we should have to take a loss where *multiple* officiating calls are just simply absurd.

 

[sunset]

I remember Nebraska saying this before they left- they’re being treated even worse now in the BIG. Winning fixes the officiating conspiracies. Nebraska has been awful lately- funny how that corresponds with their belief the refs are against them too.

Plus, let’s say we went to another P5- do you really believe we’d be treated better as the new guy on the block? We’d get better treatment in a conference where we have even LESS of a footprint?! You guys gotta wake up.

Or we can accept the status quo and continue to get screwed. Is that the better outcome?

Have Jamie or Campbell commented at all? If Jamie, at least, doesn’t then I’m not sure I still have confidence in the leadership of our athletic department. They’ve done great things, they need to address this situation in a very loud manner.

 

[Nolaeer]

I just want to add this on big 12 officiating.
Last year in Austin, a game Texas won 17-13, WVU had two calls that were way worse than anything ISU experienced.

1st was a hit and fumble. It was called a fumble on the field. it required no in depth look. The ball carrier was hit and coughed it up. WVU recovered deep in Texas territory. The replay booth reversed the call, and said the whistle had blown The announcers were incredulous. How could the whistle have blown at first contact.

On the last play of the game WVU had the ball on the Texas 5 on 4th down. They threw a slant to a wr who was wide open. The Texas defender tackled him before the ball arrived(like a whole second before it arrived) to keep him from catching the winning td and there was no call. game over.

Again, the announcers were incredulous. He was clearly tacked and brought to the ground while the ball was in the air, and hadnt arrived, but no PI called.

Oklahoma State got robbed in Stillwater last year when playing Texas, with calls equally bad or worse than you experienced. Game changing calls.

WVU isnt Texas(although WVU has a winning record against Texas) or OU. the big 12 isnt going to cheat to help WVU win a single game.

 

[Rabbuk]

I just want to add this on big 12 officiating.
Last year in Austin, a game Texas won 17-13, WVU had two calls that were way worse than anything ISU experienced.

1st was a hit and fumble. It was called a fumble on the field. it required no in depth look. The ball carrier was hit and coughed it up. WVU recovered deep in Texas territory. The replay booth reversed the call, and said the whistle had blown The announcers were incredulous. How could the whistle have blown at first contact.

On the last play of the game WVU had the ball on the Texas 5 on 4th down. They threw a slant to a wr who was wide open. The Texas defender tackled him before the ball arrived(like a whole second before it arrived) to keep him from catching the winning td and there was no call. game over.

Again, the announcers were incredulous. He was clearly tacked and brought to the ground while the ball was in the air, and hadnt arrived, but no PI called.

Oklahoma State got robbed in Stillwater last year when playing Texas, with calls equally bad or worse than you experienced. Game changing calls.

WVU isnt Texas(although WVU has a winning record against Texas) or OU. the big 12 isnt going to cheat to help WVU win a single game.

No

 

[CYEATHAWK]

WVU isnt Texas(although WVU has a winning record against Texas) or OU. the big 12 isnt going to cheat to help WVU win a single game.

ISU isn't Texas either. Because if we were just by using your examples, all three of the controversial reviewable calls yesterday would not have went your way and you would have lost. Your WR would have been ruled out of bounds........there would have been a play clock violation before the TD pass.....and Breece would have scored that TD as ruled by the linesman. But we aren't Texas......so we get screwed, and you lucked out.

 

[MisterO]

Sure, but that's not the point. You can sit up there and act like you're above the complaining, but this wasn't a missed spot of the ball. It was two egregious calls with obvious replays that made a huge impact on winning and losing. It was incompetence, and that deserves to be ridiculed, and we're right to be angry.

EDIT: Just read all of your posts and regret responding in earnest.

I’m not above the complaining. I’ve seen this stuff firsthand. I was in Manhattan in 2017- I’ve never been so mad after a game. Yesterday was horrible too. I understand the anger- I feel it too, but acting like the refs decided the game is ridiculous. Our team didn’t perform at the level they are capable of. Our players know it, our coaches know it, and yes, even our fans who are honest, know it.

 

[jsb]

I’m not above the complaining. I’ve seen this stuff firsthand. I was in Manhattan in 2017- I’ve never been so mad after a game. Yesterday was horrible too. I understand the anger- I feel it too, but acting like the refs decided the game is ridiculous. Our team didn’t perform at the level they are capable of. Our players know it, our coaches know it, and yes, even our fans who are honest, know it.

No one has said that Iowa State played well. NO ONE.

 

[MisterO]

Or we can accept the status quo and continue to get screwed. Is that the better outcome?

Have Jamie or Campbell commented at all? If Jamie, at least, doesn’t then I’m not sure I still have confidence in the leadership of our athletic department. They’ve done great things, they need to address this situation in a very loud manner.

So JP doesn’t pitch a fit- he’s all of the sudden not worthy to lead our athletic department? Seriously- no one has done more for Iowa State athletics in my 40 years of fandom than JP. I trust JP. I trust that he’s handling the poor officiating through proper back channels in a manner that respects our institution- not pitching a fit and joining the ranks of angry armchair fans.

Take the JP must do this or else crap somewhere else.

 

[MisterO]

No one has said that Iowa State played well. NO ONE.

Then why not leave it at that? Why make excuses? That’s my entire point.

 

[jsb]

Then why not leave it at that? Why make excuses? That’s my entire point.

Because acknowledging the bad officiating and the effect it had on the game is not an excuse. That's my entire point.

I'm not nearly as angry about this one as I was about Kansas State 2017 because we did play bad. But that doesn't mean that we likely would have won yesterday if 2 of those terrible calls were called correctly.

 

[MisterO]

Because acknowledging the bad officiating and the effect it had on the game is not an excuse. That's my entire point.

I'm not nearly as angry about this one as I was about Kansas State 2017 because we did play bad. But that doesn't mean that we likely would have won yesterday if 2 of those terrible calls were called correctly.

I get it and it sucked.

Here’s to hoping for a better outcome against the Horns Saturday. I’ll be in the stands and can’t wait to watch us lay a third one on the losers from Austin.

 

[CyBobby]

Why are you yelling old man

Maybe its because after being a Cyclone Fan for 59 years ....I am so Tired Of LOSING to teams with three wins and four losses....

 

[JM4CY]

I just want to add this on big 12 officiating.
Last year in Austin, a game Texas won 17-13, WVU had two calls that were way worse than anything ISU experienced.

1st was a hit and fumble. It was called a fumble on the field. it required no in depth look. The ball carrier was hit and coughed it up. WVU recovered deep in Texas territory. The replay booth reversed the call, and said the whistle had blown The announcers were incredulous. How could the whistle have blown at first contact.

On the last play of the game WVU had the ball on the Texas 5 on 4th down. They threw a slant to a wr who was wide open. The Texas defender tackled him before the ball arrived(like a whole second before it arrived) to keep him from catching the winning td and there was no call. game over.

Again, the announcers were incredulous. He was clearly tacked and brought to the ground while the ball was in the air, and hadnt arrived, but no PI called.

Oklahoma State got robbed in Stillwater last year when playing Texas, with calls equally bad or worse than you experienced. Game changing calls.

WVU isnt Texas(although WVU has a winning record against Texas) or OU. the big 12 isnt going to cheat to help WVU win a single game.

We don’t need a laundry list for you to prove to us that the big 12 officials are terrible. No one sane in here is saying the big 12 is hellbent on screwing ISU. What we is some level of competency and accountability. We played like ass so multiple absolutely awful calls ended up costing us the game. We play even a little better, it’s likely just a close game because of the officiating drastically assisting WV.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

He is the QB of the defense, and if NFL Scouts want an idea how he can impact a defense, look at todays results.
Guy probably moved up a few spots in the draft by not playing today

Between Eisworth, Hummel, and Enyi there should have been no leadership void. I agree Rose is important but he didn't make them tackle like crap, he didn't make our DBs play terribly, and he certainly didn't make those terrible officiating calls. The team didn't have any juice, though they fought hard to the end. It's a shame how poorly that game was officiated.

 

[cycfan1]

I just want to add this on big 12 officiating.
Last year in Austin, a game Texas won 17-13, WVU had two calls that were way worse than anything ISU experienced.

1st was a hit and fumble. It was called a fumble on the field. it required no in depth look. The ball carrier was hit and coughed it up. WVU recovered deep in Texas territory. The replay booth reversed the call, and said the whistle had blown The announcers were incredulous. How could the whistle have blown at first contact.

On the last play of the game WVU had the ball on the Texas 5 on 4th down. They threw a slant to a wr who was wide open. The Texas defender tackled him before the ball arrived(like a whole second before it arrived) to keep him from catching the winning td and there was no call. game over.

Again, the announcers were incredulous. He was clearly tacked and brought to the ground while the ball was in the air, and hadnt arrived, but no PI called.

Oklahoma State got robbed in Stillwater last year when playing Texas, with calls equally bad or worse than you experienced. Game changing calls.

WVU isnt Texas(although WVU has a winning record against Texas) or OU. the big 12 isnt going to cheat to help WVU win a single game.

Watched that Texas game and agree they were bad - not going to argue which game was worse.

listen outside of a crazy few, no one is saying big 12 is cheating to help WVU win.

This crew was wildly incompetent though.

Last week team played well enough to overcome 1 bad call. Team did not play wellSaturday, not well enough to overcome multiple calls. Certainly could have played better to avoid putting in refs hands but it’s not like a team plays A level football every single week either. Defense has carried this team and had a very uncharacteristic week.

 

[carvers4math]

Didn’t we blow a timeout because they were blaring the stadium music when Purdy was trying to get the play off? At a minimum, could the conference fine them for crap like that they can control as opposed to fining field rushes, which you can try to make safer but really never completely control?