Self can coach and his players buy into playing for a tough coach. It’s enough to more than overcome the “perks” and then getting 3-4 fixed games a year results in 16 straight league titles or whatever it was.
Officiating travesty in Lawrence
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Self can coach and his players buy into playing for a tough coach. It’s enough to more than overcome the “perks” and then getting 3-4 fixed games a year results in 16 straight league titles or whatever it was.
The goaltend would have completely changed the way the last 2 minutes played out, and maybe not favorably. It's not as simple as saying we lost by one, so two more points would have won the game. Had it counted, Grill's almost-a-3 would have tied the game and KU probably approaches their next possessions more aggressively. Even if it plays out similarly, we'd be looking at FTs instead of the 2 Brockington hit, and then theyd be hunting a 3. Sure it's a better position to be in, and one we deserved, but there's no guarantee. We may well have lost even if the right calls had been made. We had an open shot to win it at the end, and that's all you can hope for on the road in this league.
KU is good enough they don't need to be protected, which is why it's even more infuriating when they consistently get help.
The goaltend feels on par with the phantom three, should have been a way to fix it, and it's ridiculous that there isn't. Personally, I'd rank it behind Niang fouling the guy while laying under the basket or Witheys 6th foul going to Kevin Young, those calls were much worse.
KU is good enough they don't need to be protected, which is why it's even more infuriating when they consistently get help.
The goaltend feels on par with the phantom three, should have been a way to fix it, and it's ridiculous that there isn't. Personally, I'd rank it behind Niang fouling the guy while laying under the basket or Witheys 6th foul going to Kevin Young, those calls were much worse.
Absolutely, I was more suggesting we've seen a certain football team get the Kansas ball treatment, and still not contend for anything. Self is a good (albeit dirty) coach that could win without the favorable treatment.
Keep seeing this everywhere. Our offense only needs to be as good as our defense allows it be. New players aren’t coming this season so I don’t know what you want to “fix”. The fix last night was to get one more stop and that’s how it’s going to be this year so stop whining.
810 sports did some research once and came up with the conclusion every home team gets better calls from the officials and the bigger the crowd the more likely that is to happen. That being said, the blown goaltend was the worse miss I've seen in a long time. Those three were not good.
I will grant you this. Anything could have happened after that goaltend. But, I like our position better up 3 with 1:47 on the clock rather than up 1. I would be interested in the analytics geeks talking about the win % between the two. Maybe it is a little, but I bet the win % of the up 3 is higher than the up 1.
If given the choice, I would take the up 3.
PAge 100 of the rules of ncaa men's basketball:
Art. 4. The officials shall not use such available equipment for judgment calls
such as:
a. Determine whether a foul occurred. (Exceptions: A flagrant foul.)
b. Determine whether basket interference or goaltending occurred.
c. Determine whether a violation occurred except in Rules 11-2.1.e and
11-3.1.a.2
Those are the rules that each team are playing within, yes.
Again, I am not stating that the McCormack illegal screen was not a foul. I am only stating that it is rarely called despite happening a lot in every game. My memory is questionable but I do not recall any other illegal screens being called yesterday besides that one.
Wow, that is a really good picture. Too bad we can't have those pics all the time for review.
After they reviewed it I was positive it was a 2. Now, even the officials might even have to give us a 3. ha!
Dang, that is another thing that could have changed the game.
That rule book is from 3 years ago. Try to keep up.
Hi randomfan44,
I hope you know that things in life change:
11-2.1.e (Instant replay – basket interference and goaltending)
In the last two minutes of the second period or the last two minutes of any overtime period, allow the use of instant replay to review basket interference and goaltending when a call has been made. After such review, in the event of an officiating error, the alternating possession arrow shall be used to determine possession. Rationale: To enhance the opportunity for this call to be adjudicated correctly at the end of the game.
Go on.....
Ah, I forgot about the whole last 2 minutes thing. Yes, you are correct. The refs were allowed to review that play. I wish they would have so this whole conversation wasn't necessary.
To be fair, basketball doesn't have conference dedicated officials. This isn't a Big 12 thing this is an officials lose their minds in that building thing. There are several amazing home court environments but there isn't another school in the country that benefits for head scratching officiating gaggle f*cks like KU. Not Duke, not Kentucky, not Mich St and so on.
FIFY
We've seen it called several times in ISU games and I don't remember seeing many (if any) notable times is wasn't called when it should have been.
Hey dumb f*ck if the official would have called goaltending it would have been 100% reviewable... That's where the official HAS to make the call and then go to the monitor. To call that a clean block and play on was atrocious.
