***Big 12 Championship (Sat.-Sun.; Tulsa)***

[HGoat1]

125 - 3rd I don't really like Kysen's place in the bracket, would much rather be in the 4/5 match with Cardinale in the semis. However, I think he beats Teske, the way Teske won that first match was flukey imo.

133- 5th I could see Ramazan going on a run, after Fix he could beat anyone imo

141- 4th Parker can definitely win this weight, feels like he is pretty dinged up though. I will say he drops one to Hart and to Alirez.

149- 2nd beats Mcdougle, loses another wild one to gfeller.

157- Champ

165 - 7th going to be tough to crack that top 6, pretty deep weight

174 - 7th another deep weight

184- 2nd, I don't love getting Keegan Moore in the quarter but think Marcus is able to slip by.

197 3rd Who knows? I think Elam is the best guy in the bracket, don't love getting him in the quarter but Yonger can do it again. Will be interesting to see Yonger vs someone like Sloan who is a top position specialist. Won't be worried about results at this weight very much for NCAA seeding purposes, the top 10-15 guys at NCAAs are all pretty similar, its going to be a tough path no matter what you get seeded.

Hwt 3rd This will depend a lot on Metz health at the 6 seed. He is a good wrestler but hasn't been active much this year.

We finish with 9 qualifiers

 

[crablegs]

25 - 4th. Think he loses to Teske but is able to beat Sutton or Mastro whoever he matches up with in Consi semis.
33 - 4th here too. Think he beats March, and then wins over Prata in Consi semis.
41 - 2nd. Think he loses to either Alirez or Carlson.
49 - 1st. Starting the train now. Gfeller is someone who is not scared to mix it up with Degen, so think he gets him in a funky position for some back points.
57 - 1st
65 - not spending anytime looking at this bracket.
74 - 7th
84 - 2nd. Only loses to Keck.
97 - 5th. Capable of winning, just the pessimist in me. The Elam win was fluke so have him losing that and then also to Sloan or Woodley in Consi semis.
Hvy - 4th.

 

[GMackey32]

25-4th
33-5th
41-Champ
49-Champ
57-Champ
65-no clue, just hope we avoid 0-2 here
74-7th
84-2nd
97-2nd
HVY-3rd

 

[theshadow]

Since there are no true placement matches this year (which is stupid), you can start locking in some NCAA qualifiers earlier than usual.

*All semifinalists at 125, 133, 141, 157, 174, 197, and HWT will move on because there are 6+ bids at each of those weights. So, anyone with a first-round bye at those weights only has to win their first match to be an NCAA qualifier.

*First-round conso winners at 174 will advance, because there are 8 bids.

 

[CyCloneRastlinG]

125 - 4th. Loses to Teske, wins, beats Prata, beats Surtin, loses to LaMont for 3rd
133 - 4th. Beats March, Loses to Fix, beats Madrigal, loses to Biscoglia.
141 - Champ. Beats Clay Carlson in Finals.
149 - 2nd. Loses to Gfeller in Finals.
157 - Champ champ
165- 7th. Loses to Hall. Beats Brisker. Loses to Cook. Beats Grello.
174 - 6th. Loses to Devos. Win. Beats Mantanona. Loses to Hastings. Loses to Runyon.
184 - 2nd. REBOUND TIME. Beats Moore. Beats Samuelson. Loses to Keck.
197 - 3rd. Loses to Elam. Win. Win. Beats Sloan. Beats Buchanan. This weight is absolutely loaded with talent. Hard to predict what happens.
Hwt - 3rd. Win. Win. Loses to Elam. Win. Beats AJ Nevills.

 

[JM4CY]

125 - 4th. Loses to Teske, wins, beats Prata, beats Surtin, loses to LaMont for 3rd
133 - 4th. Beats March, Loses to Fix, beats Madrigal, loses to Biscoglia.
141 - Champ. Beats Clay Carlson in Finals.
149 - 2nd. Loses to Gfeller in Finals.
157 - Champ champ
165- 7th. Loses to Hall. Beats Brisker. Loses to Cook. Beats Grello.
174 - 6th. Loses to Devos. Win. Beats Mantanona. Loses to Hastings. Loses to Runyon.
184 - 2nd. REBOUND TIME. Beats Moore. Beats Samuelson. Loses to Keck.
197 - 3rd. Loses to Elam. Win. Win. Beats Sloan. Beats Buchanan. This weight is absolutely loaded with talent. Hard to predict what happens.
Hwt - 3rd. Win. Win. Loses to Elam. Win. Beats AJ Nevills.

That kind of performance from 25 and 33 I think goes a long way in getting that team trophy. I hope your right.

 

[CyCloneRastlinG]

That kind of performance from 25 and 33 I think goes a long way in getting that team trophy. I hope your right.

Kysen could place anywhere from 1st to 7th and Yonger could be anywhere from 1st to 6th. Going to be fun to watch them kick ass.

 

[theshadow]

Just as a goof, I took the arena locations of the current Big 12 teams and figured a geographic midpoint -- which comes out between Lincoln and Grand Island.

Adding Cal Baptist (who is joining the league next year) only moves the marker west to Kearney.

So, Kansas City would obviously be a much better central location than Tulsa.

 

[JM4CY]

Just as a goof, I took the arena locations of the current Big 12 teams and figured a geographic midpoint -- which comes out between Lincoln and Grand Island.

Adding Cal Baptist (who is joining the league next year) only moves the marker west to Kearney.

So, Kansas City would obviously be a much better central location than Tulsa.

Now do how it would be compared to Des Moines…..

 

[theshadow]

Now do how it would be compared to Des Moines…..

 

[OKClones]

125) 6th
133) 5th
141) 2nd
149) 2nd
157) Champ
165) 0-2
174) 7th
184) 2nd
197) 5th
HWT) 3rd
Team 3rd behind OSU and Missouri

 

[BCClone]

It's way past time to move this tournament to Kansas City and stop drawing byes. John Smith and the Pokes are holding this conference back at this point.

Why not Des Moines?

 

[theshadow]

Why not Des Moines?

Because Drake would be a dud venue.

 

[NWICY]

Because Drake would be a dud venue.

So are you thinking Municipal Auditorium in KC or the Sprint Center? ( whatever it's renamed)

 

[JM4CY]

Because Drake would be a dud venue.

I was thinking Wells Fargo. I don’t see why not.

 

[BCClone]

Because Drake would be a dud venue.

That would be a dud, that is why I have been to a lot of wrestling tournaments and none have ever been at Drake. There are several options besides the Well. What is attendance at these? I haven't been to one since it was only 5 teams.

 

[BCClone]

I was thinking Wells Fargo. I don’t see why not.

state tournaments this weekend.

 

[JM4CY]

state tournaments this weekend.

**** the state tournament! Kick it out!

 

[JM4CY]

Low-key, shot at okie st at the end. Lol

 

[JohnPrineforCy]

Why not Des Moines?

I think Des Moines would be great, and draw a large crowd. I was thinking more centrally located to maximize the amount of fans from that would show up. You would still get the Oklahoma crowds, and now that Missouri is back they would also travel. A lot easier for the Uni and State fans to go to KC than Tulsa. I also live in KC so I am being selfish.