NET Rankings are Flawed

Beyerball

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Six comparable teams, yet one of these has a NET that is 14-35 spots higher than the others.
Nameless jerseys: rank the teams.

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I have 3 - 1 - 4 - 2 - 5 - 6
My reasoning: Q1+2 wins against SOS, #3 has most (11) wins and particularly most Q1 against one of hardest SOS. Same reason I put Team 1 over Team 4 for second.
3, 1, 4, 5, 2, 6

Team 3 and Team 1 have best resume by far..Team 4 is close to Team 1..but Team 3 and Team 1 SOS and SOR is just far superior to others and Team 3 with 9 Quad 1 wins.

ISU is Team 3 obviously. I don't care what ISU NET ranking is...Quality wins and SOR/SOS trumps everything else.

ISU wins Wednesday they are a lock for a 7 seed at worst IMO. Beat Baylor and they could jump to 5/6 seed.

Committee will reward quality wins over all other things when it comes to seeding.
 

clonedude

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3, 1, 4, 5, 2, 6

Team 3 and Team 1 have best resume by far..Team 4 is close to Team 1..but Team 3 and Team 1 SOS and SOR is just far superior to others and Team 3 with 9 Quad 1 wins.

ISU is Team 3 obviously. I don't care what ISU NET ranking is...Quality wins and SOR/SOS trumps everything else.

ISU wins Wednesday they are a lock for a 7 seed at worst IMO. Beat Baylor and they could jump to 5/6 seed.

Committee will reward quality wins over all other things when it comes to seeding.

You wanna wager on who ends up with the better seed…. ISU or Iowa?
 

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Six comparable teams, yet one of these has a NET that is 14-35 spots higher than the others.
Nameless jerseys: rank the teams.

View attachment 96156

I have 3 - 1 - 4 - 2 - 5 - 6
My reasoning: Q1+2 wins against SOS, #3 has most (11) wins and particularly most Q1 against one of hardest SOS. Same reason I put Team 1 over Team 4 for second.

OK, here is the rest of the table

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The point being, 4 & 5 have better SOR, more quality wins and equal or better SOS and are 3 lines down on the seeding. VCU is approx. equivalent to Iowa (performance metrics wise) and are projected out.
 

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NET is NOT a resume ranking system!!! Don't treat it as such, because the committee doesn't either. They use NET to organize teams into Quadrants, and use the quadrant records to rank resumes.
we KNOW THIS...but the experts obviously don't because they're seeding these teams with 0 or 1 Q1 wins above soooo many teams that have way more and better SOR as well.
 

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Considering Iowa State beat Iowa, I guess it is great they have a high NET ranking, even if it is higher than Iowa State. However, it does seem crazy that Iowa is the 2nd highest NET ranked team (Texas Tech is the highest) that Iowa Strate has beat.
 

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NET is NOT a resume ranking system!!! Don't treat it as such, because the committee doesn't either. They use NET to organize teams into Quadrants, and use the quadrant records to rank resumes.

These things all go hand in hand though. NET absolutely matters and I will all but guarantee the NCAA will try to smooth out the model in the off season.
 
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dahliaclone

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These NET rankings continue to confound me. Not surprising I guess. But in the LATEST Bracketologists site which leans heavy on NET...these are the seeds they have for a few teams:

  • Iowa (4)
  • Iowa State (10)
  • Virginia Tech (9)
  • Notre Dame (12)
  • TCU (12)
  • Providence (7)
  • Houston (1)
What the actual fuk are these seeds? Virginia Tech has 1 Q1 win and 2 Q3 losses and is a full seed line ahead of ISU? They shouldn't even be in disussion.

Houston a ONE?!

Providence a SEVEN?
 

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These NET rankings continue to confound me. Not surprising I guess. But in the LATEST Bracketologists site which leans heavy on NET...these are the seeds they have for a few teams:

  • Iowa (4)
  • Iowa State (10)
  • Virginia Tech (9)
  • Notre Dame (12)
  • TCU (12)
  • Providence (7)
  • Houston (1)
What the actual fuk are these seeds? Virginia Tech has 1 Q1 win and 2 Q3 losses and is a full seed line ahead of ISU? They shouldn't even be in disussion.

Houston a ONE?!

Providence a SEVEN?
I wouldn't worry too much about that site's bracket. Their resume comparison tool is useful, but with that bracket, they're not trying to predict what the committee will do; they're showing what the bracket would look like if it was based entirely on NET.
 
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