Tyrese Hunter Entering the Transfer Portal - NIL Speculation

[daniel22]

Personally, this stinks for obvious reasons, but I think we will be ok moving forward. The reason I am confident we will be in good shape is because we have the right coach leading this program. TJ doesn't seem like a person who who gets caught off guard panics. He is a recruiter and a hard worker and will go out of his way to figure out how to replace what we lost and will go out and build his team for next season.

 

[Cyclones1969]

Seriously. The offer is a great one. Hell, there are a massive line of students every year who would love to take that offer if these particular ones went and found other opportunities.

How much money does a random kid from Altoona generate for the university?

And make sure you’re perfectly willing to no longer expect any success, and not hold coaches responsible for losing games

 

[CyJack13]

When I was a kid, MLB was the "national pastime" and exponentially more popular than pro basketball or the fledgling NFL.

Gradually, through free agency etc., I began to lose track of rosters, or even of who was playing for "my" team this year. At last, I reached the point where I rarely even watch the World Series any more.
There are other reasons for the decline of baseball, obviously, but I see trends here in college bb. that seem eerily familiar to me.

If they adopt the universal DH in college hoops too, I swear to god I will never watch another game.

 

[Cyclones1969]

Lots of posters saying that are full of ****.

And the same ones will be the maddest when we go 10-22

 

[Cyclones1969]

How does it not? No one is stopping them from going and taking a professional job elsewhere if they think theyre good enough. Instead you want to ruin what has been working for everyone else for a century, something that has been paying 99% of athletes more than their individual market value and providing an education many would not otherwise receive, all so that a few rich athletes and a few rich programs can have their cake and eat it too.

And get out of here with the idea that they're "exploited". This is exactly the kind of language @Trice is talking about. Theyre being compensated extremely well, and often chose college over better paying opportunities to go pro because college offered additional benefits that they wanted. Theyre not being "exploited"

None of that is putting money in their pockets.

I see schools making money left and right, billions of dollars. I see kids wearing jerseys of current players.

Why shouldn’t the Breece receive compensation for the ad selling 5 star culture T shirts?

 

[daniel22]

If they adopt the universal DH in college hoops too, I swear to god I will never watch another game.

I hated that rule. I loved baseball because of the strategy that was involved with the pinch hitter.

 

[carvers4math]

This seems like a poor way to get the biggest payday for the players. If you actually entered the portal before taking your offer, you might get a bidding war. There are maybe a few schools that aren’t willing to be a party to tampering, but might be a better fit on player role. I guess UNC has the advantage of being a place where you don’t have to waste any time on legitimate academics.

 

[heitclone]

NIL stuff is fair for the players but the thing that bothers me about is, the schools and the NCAA were the ones exploiting these kids and giving them nothing in return. That still hasn't changed. I'm glad the kids are getting compensated but it's still a drop in the bucket compared to what gets generated and the people who were screwing them over in the first place haven't been impacted at all. The system didn't change, it just got brought in to the open. There is no motivation for the NCAA to react to this as their cash cows are only getting fatter and all blue blood final 4's and CFP are their goals, its just more profitable than parity.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

Lets create another thread....

 

[Gunnerclone]

NIL stuff is fair for the players but the thing that bothers me about is, the schools and the NCAA were the ones exploiting these kids and giving them nothing in return. That still hasn't changed. I'm glad the kids are getting compensated but it's still a drop in the bucket compared to what gets generated and the people who were screwing them over in the first place haven't been impacted at all. The system didn't change, it just got brought in to the open. There is no motivation for the NCAA to react to this as their cash cows are only getting fatter and all blue blood final 4's and CFP are their goals, its just more profitable than parity.

I probably would have chosen a different major if my school was free and I had access to all of the academic advantages major sport athletes have.

 

[carvers4math]

Lets create another thread....

We could try for Hoiberg to the Bulls level of meltdown

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

We could try for Hoiberg to the Bulls level of meltdown

Haha That's a pretty high bar.

 

[exCYtable]

CW or Jared, I'd absolutely LOVE to hear a guy like Gary Thompsons take on all this. It would make a fascinating interview/article: the then vs now, generational viewpoints, etc...

 

[aeroclone]

Are you telling me you didn’t enjoy watching brockerton help lead you to the sweet 16? Because I loved watching K9 lead us to an 11 win football season

I enjoyed watching the team have success, but I had very little attachment to Brockington. A 1 year transfer guy like that just isn't going to resonate with a fan like a Monte, George's, or Ejim type player.

What I see happening here is more like my relationship with MLB as a Royals fan. In a free agent type environment as a small budget team, sustained success just isn't possible. As a fan, I am fair weather. If they manage to get the pieces together for a year or two I'm all in, and then when the big budget teams come and pick it apart I tune out. No point investing until you know they have something, because even if they have a couple nice pieces you know those will be gone before everything else comes together.

In CBB it used to be worth while watching us even in the lean years to see how guys were developing and to find reason for optimism in the future. What is the point in that now when anyone that shows great potential will just leave to the highest bidder? I'll jump back in when lightening strikes and we have a good team on the floor, and jump put when we don't.

 

[heitclone]

Rough look for the ISD and their sources. I feel like narrative is going to change around the rumor and it'll be focused on UNC, it's not going to be them so that'll be the "no truth" aspect. The reaction after the premium info was leaked was interesting, the cat was out of the bag but for two days, you still had mods going out of their way to ridicule those who thought Hunter was leaving, confronting those who believed the information they read from the most reliable source on this site. It was almost cave-ish type of stuff.

I feel like we're going to find out it was potentially a situation similar to the Xavier Nwankpa stuff and there was reason for CF to downplay the info leaked.

 

[CascadeClone]

I get it, my take won't be popular because it's a very emotional topic for a lot of people posting here but personally I'd rather see people get paid what their worth than some org take that money. It's a business, they're employees, pay them what they're worth.

I agree with players getting paid, but what's happening right now will destroy competitive balance, and fast.

Wait until there are only 10 competitive teams in basketball, and they are the same ones every year. And the gap to the rest is hopelessly, hilariously wide.

 

[Dandy]

is he actually leaving

 

[CascadeClone]

I have said it 100 times. The problem isnt PAYING players, its BUYING players.

Paying them all a share of the millions doesnt impact competitive balance. Rich schools buying the best players from everybody else destroys the competitive balance.

Thats why pro leagues have salary caps, luxury taxes, etc.

Just to add on to this a skoosh - in one of the general threads on this topic, I gave the example of Breece Hall. CMC finds a guy, brings him in, showcases his talents and he is all conference. Wow!

Then Texas (or Georgia, or whoever) says "Hey this kid is good, let's go give him $1M and he can play for us".
This appears to be exactly what is happening with Hunter.

 

[madguy30]

Rough look for the ISD and their sources. I feel like narrative is going to change around the rumor and it'll be focused on UNC, it's not going to be them so that'll be the "no truth" aspect. The reaction after the premium info was leaked was interesting, the cat was out of the bag but for two days, you still had mods going out of their way to ridicule those who thought Hunter was leaving, confronting those who believed the information they read from the most reliable source on this site. It was almost cave-ish type of stuff.

I feel like we're going to find out it was potentially a situation similar to the Xavier Nwankpa stuff and there was reason for CF to downplay the info leaked.

What was the Xavier Nwankpa situation?

 

[madguy30]

Just to add on to this a skoosh - in one of the general threads on this topic, I gave the example of Breece Hall. CMC finds a guy, brings him in, showcases his talents and he is all conference. Wow!

Then Texas (or Georgia, or whoever) says "Hey this kid is good, let's go give him $1M and he can play for us".
This appears to be exactly what is happening with Hunter.

Yeah it's not as simple as 'well they can do a commercial for the local sports tavern'. It's a monster.

And when it gets like that for football...yikes for programs that rely on development.