Pollard sounds off on NIL, changing landscape of college athletics in interview on Murphy & Andy

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Jamie's comments about Tyrese are what I found most interesting and confirmed what I think many suspected. Rich people don't just hand out $500k or $1M without expecting something in return.

Jamie mentioned that Tyrese has signed with an Agency or Agent who has guaranteed money to Tyrese. That money will make Tyrese whole vs. a possible 2-way NBA/G-League agreement. Jamie's reference to Fernando Tatis signing with an agent at 16, the agent now has rights to a share of Tatis' $375M future earnings.

IMO a few ways to bring sanity to the current NIL craziness are:
  • Require athletes declare to the universities any NIL deals they have- cash or property received. NCAA Schools would be required to send this info to the IRS.
  • Require collectives to publish who it's contributors are. Maybe any contribution over $100.
  • Standardize the NIL Agreements. Prohibit any future payments from the athlete to the agency or collective.
I am sure there would be other regulations that could help bring this back to NIL vs. buying recruits.
I think I remember reading an agent saying they love NIL cuz they no longer have to foot the bill which is now done legally out in the open, they take on a lot less risk. An agent would want his client to go where they both earn the most $$$ up front, that could be the guarantee plus if they already gave Tyrese money, the sooner it’s paid back, the better.

I don’t believe they’re setting NIL up as, “here’s 500k donation, go play“, more of here’s how u can make money off the backs of our giant fan base & businesses, which should net you X.

Wouldn’t players already have to report earnings to the IRS? idk how u standardize these deals without infringing on players rights if it’s already legal.
 

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I don’t believe they’re setting NIL up as, “here’s 500k donation, go play“, more of here’s how u can make money off the backs of our giant fan base & businesses, which should net you X.

Wouldn’t players already have to report earnings to the IRS? idk how u standardize these deals without infringing on players rights if it’s already legal.

Yes athletes should report their NIL deals. But do they all? By creating a check & balances process it keep the athletes and donors accountable.

The NCAA or whatever organization is in place would certainly have the ability to create structure to the NIL process. Afterall, the athletes are on an academic scholarship. I am not talking about the NCAA restricting NIL access, just create a boilerplate NIL agreement. I think if you would look at NBA, NFL or MLB contracts there is a lot of consistency in the language.
 

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Yes athletes should report their NIL deals. But do they all? By creating a check & balances process it keep the athletes and donors accountable.

The NCAA or whatever organization is in place would certainly have the ability to create structure to the NIL process. Afterall, the athletes are on an academic scholarship. I am not talking about the NCAA restricting NIL access, just create a boilerplate NIL agreement. I think if you would look at NBA, NFL or MLB contracts there is a lot of consistency in the language.
They could go with the bagman routes but idk why they would keep doing something illegal & off the books, plus they‘d have no recourse, whereas NIL contracts might provide protection.

NCAA is a dead man walking, I don’t think these schools will care to pay the NCAA now that the curtain has dropped, conferences & CBA is where this all may be headed & they might know it’s a sink or swim situation to thin the herd until that moment
 

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Anybody know who he was talking about when he said they beat a team this year that had all 5-star paid players with no culture?

I assume it was either Memphis or Texas.
 
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I've got to disagree with this one, it would function just like the NFL, and all 30 teams would be happy. Each team would have periods of success, followed by periods of rebuilding, (there would eventually be a salary cap and collective bargaining) . Also keep in mind that a little over .500 would make the playoffs. They would all be happy.

And I'll disagree, somewhat, with your disagreement. I agree that some structure is likely to follow but I don't think it will be nearly as structured as the NFL - I don't think it can when students get to pick the team they play for up front and can transfer once with no penalty, and when pay-for-play is seemingly not an option, which rules out a salary cap.

Further, I think it may take years, maybe decades, for whatever structure eventually happens to actually be implemented (unless they agree to it up front). After all, once this top 30 splits off and Alabama is 10-2 every year while Florida State goes 2-10, what is Alabama's incentive to agree to yet another new system that threatens its dominance?

I don't think these schools would be happy going 2-10 in a super league but making a ton of money, because NFL fans aren't happy going 2-15 and don't root for their team's finances. There's just too much riding on it in college: alumni donations, enrollment, state/local pride, all sorts of things. Yes, college sports is a business but it means more than that.
 

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Top shelf quote:

"I can tell you this right now, Coach Otzelberger and Coach Campbell have both tell told me, the day that they have to buy a player is the day that they’re going to go coach Division III"


Uh, strange quote. Didn't the day that we have to buy players arrive about a week or so ago?

So, Campbell is going to Mount Union. Where is Otz going?
 

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I'm sure I am super duper biased because Jamie Pollard is the AD of my Cyclones, but I don't see anyone out there who would be a better fit to take over Emmert's job. After listening to him again today, he has a great mind for college athletics.


I thought Murph was about ready to nominate Pollard for Emmert's job.
 
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Jamie also mentioned that Campbell mentioned if college football remains unregulated, he would prefer to be an NFL coach where there are salary caps, etc.


So, which is it? Is Campbell going to Division 3 or the NFL?
 
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Uh, strange quote. Didn't the day that we have to buy players arrive about a week or so ago?

So, Campbell is going to Mount Union. Where is Otz going?
I somehow doubt he’s giving up his $3 million salary, but it does make for a good article quote.
 

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Jamie also mentioned that Campbell mentioned if college football remains unregulated, he would prefer to be an NFL coach where there are salary caps, etc.
Maybe you were trying to paraphrase but that isn’t what he said:

“And, you know, but what I’m more concerned about, are some of the things that I think are coming down the pipe, you know, that could radically change the business model of no scholarship limitations, you know, no sport requirements, things like that, that’ll that could cause a divide, but maybe that divide needs to be, maybe it needs to happen. You know, and if we need to have 30 schools, go play minor league sports and all their sports and let them go do it. You know, I thought coach Campbell said it best to me. He said, ‘Hey, if we’re going to be in that space, I’m going to the NFL, because at least there’s salary caps and there’s rules,’ because what you’re talking about right now has no salary caps and no rules. That’s a recipe for disaster. And he’s absolutely right”.
 

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As many here have pointed out, if/when the 30 team super league happens, there will be a LOT of disappointed fan bases after a few years. Tennessee and Texas fans will start crying foul after they don't have winning seasons repeatedly. (sort of like how Texas seems to cry and destroy conferences every couple decades)

I also think the media deals are pretty shortsighted. People in Iowa won't just magically start supporting Alabama or Auburn or USC. People are fans of the schools they went to, or have familial connections to. This isn't pro sports culturally. Fans of "relegated" schools aren't going to just decide to start watching and cheering for the new league.

The NFL, NBA, etc. all have pull because they're the absolute top tier of competition, and they are the best of the best. Nobody watches G-league on TV. College football/basketball are good on TV because of the rabid fanbases. They are fans of the universities. The media market for the "super league" will be much less than people think.
 

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Great quote for an interview, but nobody's taking a 90%+ pay cut in the prime of their careers for the love of the game.
Jamie later commented that Campbell also said if the situation gets really bad with NIL, he'd coach in the NFL because they at least have rules which make the playing field more level.
 
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