Are the new 4 schools guaranteed entry into the Big 12?

[ISUFB8]

SIAP, but what if we just conceeded the east coast (WVU and UCF) and added the Arizona Schools, Colorado, Utah, Oregon, and Washington?

Gets us to 16, still gives you a geographic alignment (somewhat), and locks down the major players on in the midwest and west coast.

My question is, do we like that idea and is the Big XII locked into any deal with UCF or WVU once the TV bill of rights is up?

 

[Cyforce]

SIAP, but what if we just conceeded the east coast (WVU and UCF) and added the Arizona Schools, Colorado, Utah, Oregon, and Washington?

Gets us to 16, still gives you a geographic alignment (somewhat), and locks down the major players on in the midwest and west coast.

My question is, do we like that idea and is the Big XII locked into any deal with UCF or WVU once the TV bill of rights is up?

So you want to boot W Virginia but keep Cincinnati? Sounds like you're looking to pass the SEC as the biggest scum bag league.

Honestly hindsight says we should of taken only Cincinnati and BYU as better options will be coming available. I haven't quite bought into the more the merrier theory. Personally I'd like to expand out east when they carve up the ACC. Say Pittsburgh and maybe Virginia Tech which would get us to 20 if we add 4 PAC schools.

 

[clone52]

There is a chance the Big 12 goes to 24 and there are 3 power conferences.

 

[OnlyCyclones]

I think if the ACC dissolution comes to pass the Big 12 will be a truly national league with ACC leftovers and have a monopoly on the mid-tier of college football. No harm in going west now and no need to leave behind UCF or WVU.

 

[CloneGuy8]

I think the best and most realistic scenario is keep the 4 new members, and add the Arizona schools, Colorado, and Utah to get to 16.

 

[Hammerschlagen]

My hot take:

Nobody is guaranteed ****

 

[CoKane]

Nobody is getting kicked out of the conference. Nobody is getting their invites pulled. Stop this crap. If anyone gets kicked out we're on the short list for it anyhow

 

[cygrads]

There is a chance the Big 12 goes to 24 and there are 3 power conferences.

Possible Big12 and PAC merge which gets to 22 leaving room for 2 ACC schools when it burns down.

 

[CYphyllis]

I'm all for whatever it takes to lose the membership paperwork for UCF, Cincinnati and Houston.

 

[OnlyCyclones]

Nobody is getting kicked out of the conference. Nobody is getting their invites pulled. Stop this crap. If anyone gets kicked out we're on the short list for it anyhow

Correct.

Nobody is getting kicked out of the conference. Nobody is getting their invites pulled. Stop this crap. If anyone gets kicked out we're on the short list for it anyhow

Now you went too far the other way.

 

[DBQR4CY]

Yes. I do wish they'd invite AZ, ASU, and Utah...then a day later send the Colorado invite. Colorado is what started the initial exit from the Big 12. Heard that Wash St. and Oregon St won't be left out of any more Washington and Oregon make. They're a package deal.

Sorry Cal and Stanford, you don't bring much.

 

[ISUAgronomist]

I'm all for whatever it takes to lose the membership paperwork for UCF, Cincinnati and Houston.

Or Baylor....

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Grab em all!

 

[sj4]

Yes. I do wish they'd invite AZ, ASU, and Utah...then a day later send the Colorado invite. Colorado is what started the initial exit from the Big 12. Heard that Wash St. and Oregon St won't be left out of any more Washington and Oregon make. They're a package deal.

Sorry Cal and Stanford, you don't bring much.

There's an aspect of this that makes some sense. If Notre Dame goes to the big ten and they want to stay at 20 teams then they couldn't take all four of the northwest schools. So they've told them to wait outside for awhile. But, also if ND gets in they might want Standford in. Hoity-toity's seem to stick together. Notre Dame at Oregon State doesn't seem like a game that needs to be played. But ND at Stanford would. ND and Stanford would make 18 then they would only need two more. We'll see.

 

[NWICY]

Yes. I do wish they'd invite AZ, ASU, and Utah...then a day later send the Colorado invite. Colorado is what started the initial exit from the Big 12. Heard that Wash St. and Oregon St won't be left out of any more Washington and Oregon make. They're a package deal.

Sorry Cal and Stanford, you don't bring much.

OU and Okie State used to be a package also.

 

[NWICY]

The offer has been extended honor our word.

 

[Cyclad]

Yes. I do wish they'd invite AZ, ASU, and Utah...then a day later send the Colorado invite. Colorado is what started the initial exit from the Big 12. Heard that Wash St. and Oregon St won't be left out of any more Washington and Oregon make. They're a package deal.

Sorry Cal and Stanford, you don't bring much.

Washington legislature has already announced it will introduce a bill to tie Washington and WSU together. Not sure when or if it will pass. Have heard nothing about Oregon. This would be bad for the B12, imo, as it might keep the P12 alive.

 

[cyclones500]

Even if there was a desire (or possibility) to rescind the recent invites, you definitely don't boot West Virginia. It was a mutual life-preserver for Big 12 at the time. (Similar to why you wouldn't purge TCU at this point).

Sure, if it were possible to foresee BiG plucking from Pac-12 within a year after OUT was outed, the options to expand would have turned westward instead instead of UCF/Cincy. Realignment hindsight requires a time machine.

 

[Cyforce]

Washington legislature has already announced it will introduce a bill to tie Washington and WSU together. Not sure when or if it will pass. Have heard nothing about Oregon. This would be bad for the B12, imo, as it might keep the P12 alive.

Honestly, I see this as a trap. Gets WSU a landing stop then legislature backs off when the BiG comes calling for the Huskies.

 

[Hammerschlagen]

What is the point of tying two state schools together? Apparently Oklahoma tried that now you’re saying Washington is going to try that? I’ve heard similar things about Arizona. Obviously the state of Iowa never did that