Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[drmwevr08]

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Tier 69 rights are big bucks.

 

[Gonzo]

A Pac12/ Big12 merger might make sense.

The Big10/SEC realignment moves are characterized by big game hunting. Culling off the most valuable schools from the Big12/Pac12 to maximize per school media payouts.

A Big12/Pac12 merger has the same end goal, maximize per a school media payouts. But that can only be achieved by culling off the weakest!

The question is:

1. Who are the least valuable media payout teams in the Big12 & Pac12?
2. Among those 22 teams, if a merged conference included let's say only 16 of those teams, would that make a big difference in per school payouts?

After all, it would be idealistic to think a Big12/Pac12 merger wouldn't be driven by money.

The day any conference boots a member institution because they're not deemed valuable enough in the world of media rights would be... interesting. I honestly don't ever see it happening.

 

[LivntheCyLife]

The day any conference boots a member institution because they're not deemed valuable enough in the world of media rights would be... interesting. I honestly don't ever see it happening.

I think it would have to be schools leaving to form an entirely new conference. Although there would still probably be some legal issues.

 

[Gonzo]

I think it would have to be schools leaving to form an entirely new conference. Although there would still probably be some legal issues.

Yeah that would add a wrinkle, essentially dissolving both existing conferences, announcing plans to form a new conference, accepting applications to join from all former B12/P12 member schools, and choosing winners/losers from there.

 

[LivntheCyLife]

A Pac12/ Big12 merger might make sense.

The Big10/SEC realignment moves are characterized by big game hunting. Culling off the most valuable schools from the Big12/Pac12 to maximize per school media payouts.

A Big12/Pac12 merger has the same end goal, maximize per a school media payouts. But that can only be achieved by culling off the weakest!

The question is:

1. Who are the least valuable media payout teams in the Big12 & Pac12?
2. Among those 22 teams, if a merged conference included let's say only 16 of those teams, would that make a big difference in per school payouts?

After all, it would be idealistic to think a Big12/Pac12 merger wouldn't be driven by money.

I don't think anything really moves the needle much unless the ACC also gets involved.
I do think it's interesting if Big 10 doesn't want Washington and Oregon. And then I also question if the SEC really has a desire and need for Clemson and FSU already having SC and UF.

If legal, GOR, and current affiliations were no issue, the best chance to compete with the Big 10 and SEC for a power 3 conference probably looks something like these 20:

Clemson
FSU
UNC
Oregon
Washington
Oklahoma St
Kansas
Iowa St
Arizona
ASU
Utah
BYU
Colorado
Texas Tech
Cal
Stanford
WVU
Pitt
Miami
Virginia Tech

But there's probably too many obstacles to get there.

 

[simply1]

Western alumni will definitely be interested in viewing some of these games live.

I’d absolutely travel to most the west coast for these.

 

[ScottyP]

I don't think anything really moves the needle much unless the ACC also gets involved.
I do think it's interesting if Big 10 doesn't want Washington and Oregon. And then I also question if the SEC really has a desire and need for Clemson and FSU already having SC and UF.

If legal, GOR, and current affiliations were no issue, the best chance to compete with the Big 10 and SEC for a power 3 conference probably looks something like these 20:

Clemson
FSU
UNC
Oregon
Washington
Oklahoma St
Kansas
Iowa St
Arizona
ASU
Utah
BYU
Colorado
Texas Tech
Cal
Stanford
WVU
Pitt
Miami
Virginia Tech

But there's probably too many obstacles to get there.

Miami to Seattle would be a long trip.

 

[ISUTex]

The day any conference boots a member institution because they're not deemed valuable enough in the world of media rights would be... interesting. I honestly don't ever see it happening.

I could see them telling Minnesota, Iowa, Purdue, Indiana etc....that they don't bring as much as USC or Oregon or whoever, so they need to take less money. That could happen someday.

 

[Gonzo]

I could see them telling Minnesota, Iowa, Purdue, Indiana etc....that they don't bring as much as USC or Oregon or whoever, so they need to take less money. That could happen someday.

Doubt it.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Nothing beats the nice downtown view of a big ol landfill in Cedar Rapids. Hmmmmmmm garbage. Cedar Rapids will someday smell like that diaper genie in the garage in August that you haven't emptied in a week.

Trash mountains all over South Florida. They're beyond huge.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

A Pac12/ Big12 merger might make sense.

The Big10/SEC realignment moves are characterized by big game hunting. Culling off the most valuable schools from the Big12/Pac12 to maximize per school media payouts.

A Big12/Pac12 merger has the same end goal, maximize per a school media payouts. But that can only be achieved by culling off the weakest!

The question is:

1. Who are the least valuable media payout teams in the Big12 & Pac12?
2. Among those 22 teams, if a merged conference included let's say only 16 of those teams, would that make a big difference in per school payouts?

After all, it would be idealistic to think a Big12/Pac12 merger wouldn't be driven by money.

I get what you're saying but this is only really true if they start axing the schools like Northwestern, Vanderbuilt, etc.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

Yeah that would add a wrinkle, essentially dissolving both existing conferences, announcing plans to form a new conference, accepting applications to join from all former B12/P12 member schools, and choosing winners/losers from there.

This is what I expect to happen in time with the B1G and SEC, and it may also involve leaving the NCAA entirely.

Rather than kick out any schools, the 24-32 most valuable from those two leagues just leave the rest behind.

 

[Cyforce]

Aggie fans: Texas arrogance but with mason jars.

Looking at his posture, (weight on one leg) may explain where he stores his jar.

 

[BCClone]

If the Big12 merges and becomes a mega conference, I would just drop the #.

Go with a Conference name like:
Great America or All American or Big Atlantic Pacific or Big Bang.

I'm sure a marketing consulting firm can be hired to come up with something catchy.

Consulting firms generally ask what names you think are good and magically say one of those is great.

 

[Gonzo]

This is what I expect to happen in time with the B1G and SEC, and it may also involve leaving the NCAA entirely.

Rather than kick out any schools, the 24-32 most valuable from those two leagues just leave the rest behind.

Possible. I have a hard time seeing it just because both conferences are going to be swimming in cash, both think they're more valuable than the other on their own, and they wouldn't have to wait for a move like this to kick the NCAA to the curb.

 

[Acylum]

What would be fun to watch is in 10 years some network or tech company/streaming has the gonads and cash to blow up the Big 10 and SEC.

More likely it happens from within via unequal revenue sharing I would think.

 

[Gonzo]

If the Big12 merges and becomes a mega conference, I would just drop the #.

Go with a Conference name like:
Great America or All American or Big Atlantic Pacific or Big Bang.

I'm sure a marketing consulting firm can be hired to come up with something catchy.

A firm would most likely whittle it down to 3 naming options, one that's clearly the best, one that's an acceptable alternative, and one throwaway option that's horrible by design just to get the shot callers to focus on the two good ones.

And then they'll likely choose the throwaway.

 

[ISUTex]

Doubt it.

A conference full of money wh#@es? It's possible.

 

[CascadeClone]

I don't think anything really moves the needle much unless the ACC also gets involved.
I do think it's interesting if Big 10 doesn't want Washington and Oregon. And then I also question if the SEC really has a desire and need for Clemson and FSU already having SC and UF.

The SEC wanted Texas when they already had A&M.

The real truth is that ESPN wanted the brand name content that is Texas and Oklahoma, and they got them via the SEC.

If ESPN wants to lock up the content that is Clemson and FSU and/or Miami, they will try to get them via the SEC as well. ESPN is consolidating all their best product into the SEC, as best they can.

 

[madguy30]

A firm would most likely whittle it down to 3 naming options, one that's clearly the best, one that's an acceptable alternative, and one throwaway option that's horrible by design just to get the shot callers to focus on the two good ones.

And then they'll likely choose the throwaway.