In all honesty, I recall learning all of this. And, at the time, I was very interested. But I see knowledge like retaining the names of people. If you don't use it/them on a regular basis, you should not be faulted at forgetting it/them. BUT, some things people forget are like WOW!
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Where Should The Big Ten Expand Next? We Crunched The Numbers.
Which schools should the Big Ten poach next?
fivethirtyeight.com
TLDR: Notre Dame is obvious. UNC, FSU, Oregon, and Washington are in the for sure group. Then Clemson, Miami, Stanford, Cal, and Utah are in the next group, followed by a large chunk of maybes. And Iowa State is the 10th worst P5 school on this list. There are 23 options before ISU.
Interesting if only slightly less meaningless than the 10,000 posts in this thread
Other part they suggest is the pods. If the big ten would just happen to pod up like they suggest, woof on that pod.Where Should The Big Ten Expand Next? We Crunched The Numbers.
Which schools should the Big Ten poach next?
TLDR: Notre Dame is obvious. UNC, FSU, Oregon, and Washington are in the for sure group. Then Clemson, Miami, Stanford, Cal, and Utah are in the next group, followed by a large chunk of maybes. And Iowa State is the 10th worst P5 school on this list. There are 23 options before ISU.
Interesting if only slightly less meaningless than the 10,000 posts in this thread
Where Should The Big Ten Expand Next? We Crunched The Numbers.
Which schools should the Big Ten poach next?
TLDR: Notre Dame is obvious. UNC, FSU, Oregon, and Washington are in the for sure group. Then Clemson, Miami, Stanford, Cal, and Utah are in the next group, followed by a large chunk of maybes. And Iowa State is the 10th worst P5 school on this list. There are 23 options before ISU.
Interesting if only slightly less meaningless than the 10,000 posts in this thread
It’s actually not a bad analysis, even though people won’t like where ISU ranks on it. The methodology is better than most the **** done, although I think FB Historical Performance is weighted a tad too high.
Read through the whole thing and I’m not sure it’s less valid than many other models. Historical and possible streamings subs being the primary questions.
The children over on Hok report are really enjoying this new bogus rating article.Where Should The Big Ten Expand Next? We Crunched The Numbers.
Which schools should the Big Ten poach next?
TLDR: Notre Dame is obvious. UNC, FSU, Oregon, and Washington are in the for sure group. Then Clemson, Miami, Stanford, Cal, and Utah are in the next group, followed by a large chunk of maybes. And Iowa State is the 10th worst P5 school on this list. There are 23 options before ISU.
Interesting if only slightly less meaningless than the 10,000 posts in this thread
It's a meaningless article for ISU because we are not going to ever get invited into the Big 10
If you look at it, if a new super conference happened, they would be marginal to get invited so they shouldn't think it's that great. Academics will matter zippo with that and so will rivalries and wrestling, what is holding Iowa up in those rankings now and only having them as 8 or 16 anyhow.
It's all fun in games until in 20-30 years when / if they do go to a NFL model and Iowa is left out.
In 20-30 years, American Football might not even still be a major sport to the majority of college football fans. At some point, the violence will kill the game, not to mention, the greed and gluttony today. I can see a day (long after I am gone) where soccer is the number one sport in the U.S. 'Twould be funny to see a school decide to become a soccer school NOW and use their football stadium for that, pump it up, get rolling and be ahead of the curve. MLS is doing that, and I believe that in 50 years, MLS will be one of the Premier Leagues in the world instead of a retirement plan for the great Euro players now. Long term thinking, I know, not what we are about!
I think there's too much $$ in the game today where they'd ban American Football. Sure they may be more regulations, rules, and stuff like that but I just don't see it dying. It dwarfs the other sports in the country and it's not even close.In 20-30 years, American Football might not even still be a major sport to the majority of college football fans. At some point, the violence will kill the game, not to mention, the greed and gluttony today. I can see a day (long after I am gone) where soccer is the number one sport in the U.S. 'Twould be funny to see a school decide to become a soccer school NOW and use their football stadium for that, pump it up, get rolling and be ahead of the curve. MLS is doing that, and I believe that in 50 years, MLS will be one of the Premier Leagues in the world instead of a retirement plan for the great Euro players now. Long term thinking, I know, not what we are about!
I don't think it will shut down, but I see it changing so much that it becomes less and less of the fabric of people like us (Cyclone Fanatics). I was born and raised on it (CFB) and went to my first game in 1971, and I like it less and less all the time.
I actually like where Iowa State Football is right now, but I have lost interest in the uber echelon of college football. I went to the Cotton Bowl this past season, and it was just another ho-hum affair, and I like both teams (Alabama and Cincinnati).
College Football is becoming so sterile which makes it less enjoyable.
You do have a point.In 20-30 years, American Football might not even still be a major sport to the majority of college football fans. At some point, the violence will kill the game, not to mention, the greed and gluttony today. I can see a day (long after I am gone) where soccer is the number one sport in the U.S. 'Twould be funny to see a school decide to become a soccer school NOW and use their football stadium for that, pump it up, get rolling and be ahead of the curve. MLS is doing that, and I believe that in 50 years, MLS will be one of the Premier Leagues in the world instead of a retirement plan for the great Euro players now. Long term thinking, I know, not what we are about!
Look how much light has been shown on concussions and the major impacts they have on people. Even cheerleaders are having issues, due to falls and concussions.
I know a lot of parents that were pretty major football players and are football fans, but dont want to let their kids play football because of the injuries and concussions.
One would think things will need to advance significantly in safety or there MAY be a decline in the sport, including helmet design, rules, etc. But then again the sport continues to be hugely popular, and it might take longer for a major shift to happen. But look at the shifts in other sports over the last 20-30 years, NASCAR, MLB, NBA have all seen significant declines. NFL has been up and down.
Honestly though 30 years, a lot can happen. We could have established colonies on the Moon and Mars by then. We could be in the aftermath of WW3 by then. Think of where the world was in the early 90s vs today, think of technology, cellphones, computers, internet, etc. Its crazy to think.
Just seems like overthinking things and using silly data points to make a conclusion.
Does it really matter if Okie State won a FB NC in 1945 or Stanford won the NCAA 2022 Women's water polo NC?
Realignment is about $. Driven by a program's ability to attract viewers. Media partners evaluation of a schools worth is the primary consideration.
Conferences then have the ability to take media partners input and decide if schools are a good fit. Quality of athletic programs, academic reputation and school culture are all considerations.
But only a few sports really matter from a realignment standpoint in establishing a schools prestige by sport fans. Football and MBB would be weighted more. WBB, VB, Baseball and Softball all have national visibility and would be considered in developing a Prestige measure.
But even for sports like FB what happened outside 20 years ago has little meaning from a Prestige data point perspective. The Blue Blood data point is captured in the viewership #.
They could get rid of facemasks and helmets, convert to rugby tackling style. More broken noses and lacerations, less concussions. Maybe.
I'd rather have them included and go 3-9 every year.
That said, as long as they are grouped with their Big 10 west brethren, they will get favorable schedules and an outdated style of football where they thrive.
In 20-30 years, American Football might not even still be a major sport to the majority of college football fans. At some point, the violence will kill the game, not to mention, the greed and gluttony today. I can see a day (long after I am gone) where soccer is the number one sport in the U.S. 'Twould be funny to see a school decide to become a soccer school NOW and use their football stadium for that, pump it up, get rolling and be ahead of the curve. MLS is doing that, and I believe that in 50 years, MLS will be one of the Premier Leagues in the world instead of a retirement plan for the great Euro players now. Long term thinking, I know, not what we are about!
This has been said for 130 years.
All the talk of realignment and invites has been about “brands”. Iowa State is building/re-building those brands.
ISU football was a joke when I was there. McCarney started building that brand and Campbell is making it a nationally noticed product now. There have been stewards along the way that made marks, but nothing like what is going on now. We have gone from annual laughing stock to a program that is getting respect. We are still building. While the viewership numbers aren’t impressive, they are growing.
Basketball is re-building now. The brand has slipped some, but I believe TJ is correcting the ship.
This all takes time and ISU is on a good trajectory. While it would be nice to get an invite to one of the P2, I don’t think our brand is there yet.
ISU football was a joke when I was there. McCarney started building that brand and Campbell is making it a nationally noticed product now. There have been stewards along the way that made marks, but nothing like what is going on now. We have gone from annual laughing stock to a program that is getting respect. We are still building. While the viewership numbers aren’t impressive, they are growing.
Basketball is re-building now. The brand has slipped some, but I believe TJ is correcting the ship.
This all takes time and ISU is on a good trajectory. While it would be nice to get an invite to one of the P2, I don’t think our brand is there yet.
