Double digit sources are telling me Texas is lobbying to expand to 68 teams so they have a shot at the play-in game in Dayton.
CFP Expanding to 12 Teams
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Double digit sources are telling me Texas is lobbying to expand to 68 teams so they have a shot at the play-in game in Dayton.
Who is hot at the end and anything can happen in a single game. It appears campuses will host the early matches. Warm weather team coming north in mid-December. Good luck to them.
They would be assigned like they are now.
If we rework it, using 2021 (Cotton and Orange semis)...
Seeding
1. Alabama (conf champ)
2. Michigan (conf champ)
3. Cincinnati (conf champ) [up from #4]
4. Baylor (conf champ) [up from #7]
5. Georgia (at-large) [down from #3]
6. Notre Dame (at-large) [down from #5]
7. Ohio State (at-large) [down from #6]
8. Ole Miss (at-large)
9. Oklahoma State (at-large)
10. Michigan State (at-large)
11. Utah (conf champ)
12. Pittsburgh (conf champ)
Bracket
First Round
#9 Oklahoma State at #8 Ole Miss
#12 Pittsburgh at #5 Georgia
#11 Utah at #6 Notre Dame
#10 Michigan State at #7 Ohio State
Quarterfinals
(at Sugar Bowl - SEC contract) #1 Alabama vs Ole Miss/Oklahoma State
(at Fiesta or Peach Bowl) #4 Baylor vs Georgia/Pittsburgh
(at Fiesta or Peach Bowl) #3 Cincinnati vs Notre Dame/Utah
(at Rose Bowl - B1G contract) #2 Michigan vs Ohio State/Michigan State
Semifinals
(at Cotton Bowl - preferential placement) #1 Alabama
(at Orange Bowl) #2 Michigan
I think the reseeding is to try and maintain traditional bowl arrangements, e.g. PAC and B1G in the Rose, Big 12 and SEC in the Sugar, ACC in the Orange, etc. But it also would make sense to try and avoid rematches.
For those saying there aren't 12 true title contenders, you do realize like all this other stuff it is about the $$$$$ and you will watch.
Can you explain this? It's not as if this playoff access is exclusive to Iowa State.
But think about kickers sprinting around playing air guitar IN THE PLAYOFFS.
I think this is fantastic for Iowa State and for the Big 12.
If it had stayed at 4, the new Big 12 would only get a team in if they went undefeated and maybe not even then. Maybe some years a 1 loss champion gets in, but probably not too often. With 12, the Big 12 will get a team in every year and maybe they can sneak in an at large once in awhile.
I have to laugh at the SEC. I think they probably max out at 4 teams in the playoffs, which is great for the conference, but not for every team. Look at all the teams that will "expect" to be playoff teams every year. Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Oklahoma, Texas (ha!!!), Florida, Georgia. Thats a lot of disappointed teams every year and don't forget about other SEC schools sneaking in above those.
I figure Notre Dame will get in each year and the Big 10 will probably get 2 or 3 at larges each year and the SEC getting 2 or 3 at larges each year. Going to be a lot of blue blood football schools who get shut out yearly.
If it had stayed at 4, the new Big 12 would only get a team in if they went undefeated and maybe not even then. Maybe some years a 1 loss champion gets in, but probably not too often. With 12, the Big 12 will get a team in every year and maybe they can sneak in an at large once in awhile.
I have to laugh at the SEC. I think they probably max out at 4 teams in the playoffs, which is great for the conference, but not for every team. Look at all the teams that will "expect" to be playoff teams every year. Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Oklahoma, Texas (ha!!!), Florida, Georgia. Thats a lot of disappointed teams every year and don't forget about other SEC schools sneaking in above those.
I figure Notre Dame will get in each year and the Big 10 will probably get 2 or 3 at larges each year and the SEC getting 2 or 3 at larges each year. Going to be a lot of blue blood football schools who get shut out yearly.
For fun, the 2020 bracket:
First Round
#9 Georgia at #8 Cincinnati*
#12 Oregon* at #5 Notre Dame
#11 Indiana at #6 Texas A&M
#10 Iowa State at #7 Florida
Quarterfinals
(Cotton, Fiesta, or Peach) #1 Alabama* vs UGA/CIN
(Cotton, Fiesta, or Peach) #4 Oklahoma* vs ORE/ND
(Cotton, Fiesta, or Peach) #3 Ohio State* vs IND/A&M
(Orange - ACC) #2 Clemson* vs ISU/FLA
[likely assignments in bold]
Semifinals
(Sugar - preferred site) #1 Alabama
(Rose) #2 Clemson
First Round
#9 Georgia at #8 Cincinnati*
#12 Oregon* at #5 Notre Dame
#11 Indiana at #6 Texas A&M
#10 Iowa State at #7 Florida
Quarterfinals
(Cotton, Fiesta, or Peach) #1 Alabama* vs UGA/CIN
(Cotton, Fiesta, or Peach) #4 Oklahoma* vs ORE/ND
(Cotton, Fiesta, or Peach) #3 Ohio State* vs IND/A&M
(Orange - ACC) #2 Clemson* vs ISU/FLA
[likely assignments in bold]
Semifinals
(Sugar - preferred site) #1 Alabama
(Rose) #2 Clemson
All the haters:
- "We demand less football."
- "We demand 43 Bowls, but only 1 (maybe 2, 3 if we're lucky) should determine the national championship. Anything different than that makes 40+ of those bowls meaningless."
- "43 Bowls are too many bowls. We demand less football!"
While I understand your point the same teams are in the 4 team playoff every year so at least now we have a chance at an underdog making a run every 5-10 years. I'm all for that. And I'm not convinced the G5 team will always get throttled.
I don't hate it, but the six guaranteed conference winner thing seems weird. It feels like either every FBS conference should get an automatic bid or none should.
This formula just feels like it shuts out teams like Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and Michigan State that don't win their conference to the benefit of a team like the Mountain West champion that could put together a really easy schedule. There's absolutely going to be teams from non-power conferences now that put together TERRIBLE SCHEDULES to try to sneak into that sixth spot.
I would understand it if they were truly interested in creating a championship formula where everyone gets a shot (AQ for all FBS conferences), but that's not what they're doing. If anything, they're just making the playoffs easier to navigate for the elite teams, because I could still see the committee giving a two-loss Alabama/Georgia/Clemson/Ohio State team a bye. That just makes their games easier because they'll have more time to prepare, more rest, and it gives them more of a chance that the weaker teams will eliminate the stronger teams in earlier rounds.
If they're really going this way and giving smaller teams in smaller conferences a better shot, they should just eliminate the conferences, draw district lines, and make college football a more traditional sports model. If this is the long-term model, Alabama should just join the Sun Belt and be the premier team in that conference and make the playoffs every year.
This formula just feels like it shuts out teams like Iowa State, Oklahoma State, and Michigan State that don't win their conference to the benefit of a team like the Mountain West champion that could put together a really easy schedule. There's absolutely going to be teams from non-power conferences now that put together TERRIBLE SCHEDULES to try to sneak into that sixth spot.
I would understand it if they were truly interested in creating a championship formula where everyone gets a shot (AQ for all FBS conferences), but that's not what they're doing. If anything, they're just making the playoffs easier to navigate for the elite teams, because I could still see the committee giving a two-loss Alabama/Georgia/Clemson/Ohio State team a bye. That just makes their games easier because they'll have more time to prepare, more rest, and it gives them more of a chance that the weaker teams will eliminate the stronger teams in earlier rounds.
If they're really going this way and giving smaller teams in smaller conferences a better shot, they should just eliminate the conferences, draw district lines, and make college football a more traditional sports model. If this is the long-term model, Alabama should just join the Sun Belt and be the premier team in that conference and make the playoffs every year.
I think it fits for any team that loses access. If we were to lose access, which seemed possible after OuT, then us along with the other big 12 teams would have been in difficult situations attracting and retaining coaches.
The 6 conference winner thing is effectively not a change from the current P5 + best G5. No changes in that representation from old CFP/NY6 to new CFP.
Also, the committee can't give an at-large team a bye. Conference champs are 1-4 no matter what.
If a squad like the mountain west gets the 6th spot that’s still 6 at large bids. If you can’t get in there then you don’t belong in the playoff.
I love Iowa State but I have a hard time believing that a major selling point of coming here is the opportunity to play in the Playoffs. In all seriousness. If Campbell is pitching playoffs to recruits and they're nodding then he is performing some crazy magic.
There's a big difference between playing in the Peach Bowl against the #2 team from the SEC or Big 12 and having a chance at a national championship.
