Iowa State misses out on a lot of conferences and concerts to Des Moines because of the lack of amenities around the ISC. Adding this element will help bring back some of those conferences we routinely miss out on.
I think that you have a point on cannibalizing existing businesses. It will hurt Main St some. Campustown is so student focused that it won't be hurt. My opinion is that they are not banking on just local Ames people. They want to draw from the surrounding communities. No one is coming from DSM or Ankeny to go to Main St. IF they renovate Stephens and expand Scheman, then you have concerts and conventions that can sustain something like this with people that wouldn't be in Ames otherwise.
Meaning it's not an actual domain, at least yet, just a portion of cyclones.com, correct?Here's a link to the web site; the University is redirecting it now to the correct domain name ... Cyclones.com/cytown
Also, the suites are something that an individual could live in year-around if they so desired. They just don't own them when the lease is up.
Iowa State misses out on a lot of conferences and concerts to Des Moines because of the lack of amenities around the ISC. Adding this element will help bring back some of those conferences we routinely miss out on.
Eh, I've parked in C for years. With tent row + having to enter B and A from the West those lots already are separated.I think the concerns about net parking spaces have been a little misplaced, as we've had reassurances all along that there would be as much or more parking available after this project as before.
But this will definitely change the tailgating scene. It bisects that massive parking lot, much like a freeway cutting through a downtown area. Each half of the parking lot will feel smaller, with 2-3 story buildings no more than a couple hundred yards away.
It'll be interesting to see if or how that affects the scene on gameday.
? The profitability of the lower investment option will be higher...that's my point.Yes, I much prefer breaking even on some food trucks instead of millions in revenue on groundbreaking suites and a revitalizing effort of the heart of Ames/University.
I didn't realize it was a problem until I started talking to people with Conference Planning & Management at ISU and Discover Ames. A lot of conferences and concerts decide to go to Des Moines after Des Moines built Wells Fargo and put an effort into attracting businesses close to it. Iowa State AND Ames can benefit from gaining some of these back.This is problem the thing that is most missing to us fans here. We don't see the success/failure rate of loosing out on these conferences and what kind of revenue they may bring to the university.
Why do Ames people seem to shun any decent sort of development ever?It'd be a real shame if this project happened to make someone realize that other areas of town need to rapidly improve to keep business.
Regarding tailgating, will the consumer-based businesses have any reserved parking not available to tailgaters?
Why do Ames people seem to shun any decent sort of development ever?
People keep pointing to Sommerset as a failure and it probably isn’t great but it always seems busy when I go there. It also was built in an awful location that is hard to get to at least for students.
I really don’t get what they actually expect for developments. If you want Ames to just shrivel up and die fine but you have to be looking to build for the future and that is what this does. It hopefully provides more revenue and makes games more of a destination instead of just a game.
I didn't realize it was a problem until I started talking to people with Conference Planning & Management at ISU and Discover Ames. A lot of conferences and concerts decide to go to Des Moines after Des Moines built Wells Fargo and put an effort into attracting businesses close to it. Iowa State AND Ames can benefit from gaining some of these back.
? The profitability of the lower investment option will be higher...that's my point.
Also, nice strawman, clearly anyone bringing up alternative investments/options is anti revitalizing Ames.
Too many times, people worry that they will lose what they already have for businesses. That idea generally gets self-prophesying, in that by being scared and just holding on is basically having a slow death that the area can never pull out of. You need to go forward if the best information you have says what are are looking at can be successful. Some will succeed, some won't.The worry about what will happen to other businesses and what will happen in the summer months is weird too. Businesses open and close all the time for all sorts of different reasons. Infrastructure and development helps to attract more people, not just to serve the existing population.
You can't think of, or haven't heard, any alternatives between no investment and CyTown as laid out?Why do Ames people seem to shun any decent sort of development ever?
People keep pointing to Sommerset as a failure and it probably isn’t great but it always seems busy when I go there. It also was built in an awful location that is hard to get to at least for students.
I really don’t get what they actually expect for developments. If you want Ames to just shrivel up and die fine but you have to be looking to build for the future and that is what this does. It hopefully provides more revenue and makes games more of a destination instead of just a game.
Are you suggesting that these are permanent and not fluid?You can't think of, or haven't heard, any alternatives between no investment and CyTown as laid out?
You think CyTown design should be exactly as planned pre pandemic even though interest rates and business occupancy rates have changed dramatically?
Again, part of project is great. Need hotel for recruiters badly.
Yeah, Somerset shouldn't be used as evidence for anything. They put it in the most hard to get to part of town you can find. There's little reason to go up there unless you live there, so you don't get much "well, I was in the neighborhood" business.Why do Ames people seem to shun any decent sort of development ever?
People keep pointing to Sommerset as a failure and it probably isn’t great but it always seems busy when I go there. It also was built in an awful location that is hard to get to at least for students.
I really don’t get what they actually expect for developments. If you want Ames to just shrivel up and die fine but you have to be looking to build for the future and that is what this does. It hopefully provides more revenue and makes games more of a destination instead of just a game.
I had no idea Somerset existed until my son had an apartment up there about a year ago. We live north, so it's not totally out of our way to go home from games, but it's not a destination place.Yeah, Somerset shouldn't be used as evidence for anything. They put it in the most hard to get to part of town you can find. There's little reason to go up there unless you live there, so you don't get much "well, I was in the neighborhood" business.
University avenue, is a completely different beast. It's a commuter road for a ton of people. Direct access to the highway with multiple hotels at that interchange. Industrial park is close. It's as close to a central location as you can find in Ames.
That's no guarantee that it will succeed, but it's set up much better for success than a place like Somerset.