*** Official Oklahoma vs IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***
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So what happens if no coaching staff changes are made post-season?
Are we supposed to call for CMC to be fired?
(partial Jimlad???)
Are we supposed to call for CMC to be fired?
(partial Jimlad???)
Do you like watching Iowa State football succeed more than you like CMC? Then yes.
Do you like CMC more than you like watching Iowa State football succeed? Then no.
It's pretty sad, that the best play of the game was by the opponent. That fake field goal was really well done, sucked that it was against us.
Special teams win the margins whatever blah,blah,blah.
Special teams win the margins whatever blah,blah,blah.
If we go 0-9 in conference and he makes no changes, next year kind of becomes make or break for Campbell here. Underperformance last year, dumpster fire this year, next year needs to rebound. If you have 3 disappointing years in a row the chances of a staff shakeup changing the trajectory of the program are fairly low, the spiral has already begun at that point.
I'm not expecting campbell would be fired after another poor year next year, based on past history, but the writing would be all over the wall and the chance of turning things around at that point would be really low.
If they end 3-9 this season and next year is similar, after some weird seasons like '19 and '21 there should at least be questions.
Rhoads went 3 wins, 2 wins, 3 wins then got fired.
Let's hope this season isn't the start of something like that.
Also, if CMC stays into the 2023 season (I assume he will), he will have a longer tenure than Rhoads
My question was rhetorical. It’s obviously losing forward momentum. No question. How can you spin it so that it’s not.
I enjoyed a couple of nice walks in the woods today, during the game, with our dog. Still kinda MT now with football.
Not cool. We should not criticize our players like this. Ever. Especially when there are glaring offensive coaching questions.
I hear ya. See above.
Again, not all on Dekkers. He is not being put in best positions to excel. IMO.
I really hate that scenario. If we go 0-9 and no changes are made, we all know what happens next year and the year after. Sucks having to wait out the inevitable.
If there aren’t staff changes on the offensive side of the ball then it’s the beginning of the end for Campbell. You can’t just keep doing the same thing and expect to be better. You look at the offensive coaches and there is so little experience. Almost all of their experience is at ISU under Campbell. Those with experience other places are mostly at D3 schools. It’s shocking the amount of money being paid to coaches who have never really coached anywhere else.
He has to get control of this. He's going to struggle to get offensive players here if he can't show a scheme that can muster sone points.
We appear to be coasting to a stop with a flat tire (play calling/Manning), and no gas (OL/ST's), still 4 miles from town/gas station (4 games left).
This is my point. Why are the best tightends freshman? We are 2 years past good tight end play. That means we haven't had adequate replacements in the locker room for 2-3 years. Do you think Iowa waits for their TEs to graduate to find adequate replacements?
As I said Brock was behind Breece rightfully so. I wasn't comparing them. My point was his development or rather lack of throughout his time here is sad. He is a Redshirt Junior. I'm not expecting him to rival a current NFL running back but he should be better than freshman Brock or current freshman. Maybe he is injured but he has been splitting time since the beginning of the season not just the last couple games. And the coaching staff never really said he was the clear #1 back through spring or fall camp like they did with Deckers. There is a reason he isn't very productive and can't separate himself from underclassmen.
At any rate a properly balanced program shouldn't be looking at freshman to fill the holes in year 7. Recruiting and development needs to be happening yearly not every few years per position.
I know it sounds as if I'm being very critical of the coaching staff. And I am mainly because the buck stops with them. However I do believe they are victims of their own success. When Campbell arrived he talked about raising the standard. Well he has, and now they are getting smoked for a down year. I'm not a believer in fire him after or during one bad season. Mccarney was pushed out after regressing from the early 2000's and it took a decade to recover. We can't forget where we came from. Campbell has proven he can pull us from the depths before. I just wish he would take more ownership in the issues rather than coach speak his way around the issues and falsely hype the state of the program in the off season.
Running back talent is you have it or you don’t. Brock is a decent back but he isn’t a home run hitter. He would be serviceable with a good Oline, which we don’t have and really haven’t since Campbell has been here. Extremely unfortunate but a change needs to be made there badly. If we can improve there then you don’t need an NFL back to be successful.
This defense maybe among the best we have ever had. Part of the reason we have reloaded there despite turnover is that it’s easier to rotate and play tons of guys throughout the course of the game. Much harder to do that with olinemen.
Also at ISU, though not as big a deal anymore, but playing time is recruitment strategy and the tightend position has been locked down for years by Chase and Charlie. Tbh the staff probably thought they were covered with Dean. He hasn’t developed simple as that.
