My thought exactly, Gabe coming off the bench is not the same Gabe.
Rotations with Jaz Back
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It's a broken finger right? This isn't a guy who has spent four weeks in a boot and lost fitness.
CycloneErik
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Rating Bob as a problem after tough games with Kansas and Texas isn't a fair assessment of him. He's been fine outside of the very most talented opponents.
True. But I do think it’ll take him a few games to be truly back at full strength.
Some people on this board are too critical of Jones. Have you seen Homan, player liked my the most on this board, play? He was even worse than Jones offensively. I don’t remember people criticizing him like Jones.
I think the biggest issue right now with Bob is him only being effective in a true post up setting. Shoon is much more comfortable catching on the short roll or in the high post, and King gives you better spacing. There's a reason you don't see a ton of teams play through a true post up. It clogs up spacing and cutting and makes it hard to maintain movement.
Disagree only in the sense that I don't think Jared Homan was "even worse than Jones offensively". Or did you mean someone else?
If the issue was being outmatched yea, but many of the issues are self-inflicted. This is positive since he controls it more than the opponent IMO.
He’s in a slump and I hope he gets out of it because he’s been a key part of our success in the early season.
Glad you noted that about Grill because I had forgotten, but Caleb did an amazing job keeping him out of their offense. Even with a smaller and quicker guy, it is tough to keep Timmy out of the lane, and not only did he accomplish that, he held his own physically down low.
They don't play the same position - and it seems like Otz / KG are adamant about that.
Shoon / Jones / Ward are the '5's.
Jaz / King / Watson are the '4's.
I don't think they've played more than a handful of minutes without one of those '5's on the court this season. I am very curious to see if they start going "smaller".
Look at Homan’s numbers. He shot low to mid 40% and he didn’t have post moves like Jones. Most of his points were put backs. His FG percentage in senior year was only 43%
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100% agree with this. BRE seems to be pressing - much like grill has until this year. He needs to slow it down a touch and let the game come to him. I'm hoping he can get out of this rut and provide that 1-2 punch with Osun down the stretch.
It is going to be interesting and I think its going to change game to game based on matchups and how people are playing (i.e. Jones).
I have no idea what they will do with the starting lineup, but just looking at possible lineups, you could go 4 guards with either Osun, Jones, Jaz or Ward as the only post player. I'd consider Watson in the lineup a 4 guard lineup.
If they go 2 posts, there are a lot of combinations.
Osun/King
Osun/Jaz
Osun/Ward (I don't think we've done that this much)
Jones/King
Jones/Jaz
Jones/Ward (I'm not sure they've ever done that and if they have, they shouldn't again).
Ward/King
Ward/Jaz
Jaz/King
I have a hunch that we might see a decent amount of lineups with Jaz/King. Its feasible that Jones and Ward see their minutes drop, although Ward will always be useful as an instant press guy.
Might also see the guards get a few more breathers depending on matchups.
I love Watson as a long term prospect, and he's playing great defense right now, but I think Jaz will get his minutes. Jaz isn't as athletic, but he's incredibly crafty, hence all the charges he takes, and he's a better offensive player than Watson is at this stage of his career.
And he was able to average more points than Robert Jones ever will.
Let's look at Jared's game against a truly good North Carolina team in the NCAA tournament his senior year. He had 19 point and 20 rebounds. He didn't quite shoot 50% but he was a force. I love Big Rob Energy, but there is no way in hell he could have done that.
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Unless we’re playing a team with a true 5 that has a strong back-to-the-basket game, I don’t see why we couldn’t run Holmes, Gabe, Grill, and two of Jaz/Watson/king/Ward. That’s a lot of length and all good rebounders for their position. I don’t think it would be giving that much defensively. Especially if only for a few minutes at a time.
I can actually see Jaz and Watson being a bit of a 1-2 punch like Osun and BRE. That said it won't happen much because the court is too crowded with other players needing to be out there. But if you can't beat them with craftiness and length (jaz), you can try physicality (watson).
Losing Jaz I was concerned about our perimeter shooting because he's a threat out there, and I haven't looked at stats, but it seems like we're shooting decent from long range.
