*** Official #11 IOWA STATE vs West Virginia Game(Day) Thread ***

ianoconnor

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Normally I think refs lose us games because of their general incompetence and unconscious bias towards certain teams (mainly home/away). But this is one I'm genuinely suspicious of if only that one play where the ref barged in to call a foul on Grill for getting bowled over on a rebound after the other ref called a travel.
That call was ridiculous
 

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I've never tweeted **** directly at someone b4 but if I had the Twitter handles of those refs I absolutely would tonight
 

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Given how this game went... we should have lost by 20. It was a miracle we even had a shot the way it was officiated. It was not a fair game for our guys. Felt bad for them. And TJ didn't do his job and fight for them either. I don't care if that's not your style.... it's part of your job to an extent. And no, it doesn't mean getting a T. It means getting on the refs (not just talking to them)... and letting them know you're pissed. It does make a difference. He doesn't need to be a total a-hole like Fran or Huggy and act like a little child.... but something needs to be done in a game like this where your guys are not even being allowed to compete on a level playing field.
 
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It’s been said already everywhere and this is not just because of tonight but refereeing across college basketball has to be addressed. You can’t grow the game and even call this an entertaining product when there are nearly 50 fouls called and a game takes 2 and half hours that didn’t even go to OT.

Tonight was just one of hundreds of games across college basketball that are so bad for the sport. Not sure the exact answer because a foul is a foul and you want to keep it from becoming a hockey game but it already is plus 50 fouls.
 

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Normally I think refs lose us games because of their general incompetence and unconscious bias towards certain teams (mainly home/away). But this is one I'm genuinely suspicious of if only that one play where the ref barged in to call a foul on Grill for getting bowled over on a rebound after the other ref called a travel.
Thought the exact same thing
 

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The larger problem with calling ticky tack fouls is that you can (and by example of what you just called should) call them every possession. So when you call them on one possession and not the next, people have no idea how to approach defense. Not calling in the opposite direction means people get hammered sometimes but you can still expect that physical play is generally allowed. Crazy game, I really have never seen such flat out bad reffing. Felt like they were not a unit at all and there was a disagreement among them all as to how to call the game that played out via whistles. I feel like the team basically showed they had corrected a lot of our road issues so I don't feel bad about the loss or the team. Truly the worst reffing I have ever seen, though.
 

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Crooked officiating at its best tonight!!!
There’s no officiating crew that actually could be this bad!
 

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so for reals.... why the hell do we foul so much, game in and game out, even when we win? i'm assuming it's a feature of the defense and not a bug. do we really not have the ability as a team to adjust to the tightness of a game call by the refs when it's not going our way? this seems ridiculous. every road game we lose features lopsided reffing and what seems to be zero defensive adjustment by the team (if not even worse fouling in the second half).
If you were watching closely, we adjusted in the last 10 minutes of the game. We weren't nearly as aggressive on D. They were letting up a little and not nearly hand checking as much. The officials were just trained to call after the first 30 minutes.
 

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Normally I think refs lose us games because of their general incompetence and unconscious bias towards certain teams (mainly home/away). But this is one I'm genuinely suspicious of if only that one play where the ref barged in to call a foul on Grill for getting bowled over on a rebound after the other ref called a travel.

Officials, like players, have bad games. It was specifically one official that was bad (black hair, punchable face)


It sucks when it happens, but I wouldn’t be too suspicious of it.
 

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If you were watching closely, we adjusted in the last 10 minutes of the game. We weren't nearly as aggressive on D. They were letting up a little and not nearly hand checking as much. The officials were just trained to call after the first 30 minutes.
ok, that makes sense. i only listened, and it's hard to tell with John and Eric what the real story is (although I generally get the feeling they see it the same way i would).
 

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It will be a different result when these two teams play in Ames and WVU can rely on 30 fouls being called on us.
 
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