Men’s Basketball schedule 23-24

[alexssdean12]

Something to remember the past two years both of TJ's had some serious lulls towards the end of the season. The way our defensive scheme works thats hard to keep up for 31 games. I'm actually ok having more gimme games if that keeps us more fresh going into conference play.

 

[Pat]

How would you change it? Who could we play?

I’d be happy with a team or two in the 150-250 range. We play two of the worst 5 teams based on current NET, and 6 games are against bottom 100. Idaho State scrapes by at #101. I’m not asking for P6 home-and-homes, just teams with a pulse. I normally shrug at the schedule complaining, but this is impressively weak.

The invitationals are good for the team, but kind of a kick in the shins to season ticket holders. I’ll still renew.

 

[madguy30]

Something to remember the past two years both of TJ's had some serious lulls towards the end of the season. The way our defensive scheme works thats hard to keep up for 31 games. I'm actually ok having more gimme games if that keeps us more fresh going into conference play.

Hopefully the chaos/trap everywhere approach yields to the strengthening offensive pieces next year.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

When does the conference schedule come out?

Its been a long as hell time since I've actually not known who we're playing ahead of time

Labor Day-ish.

 

[isucy86]

Not a great Non-con, but not the end of the world. We will play 4 P5 schools with Iowa, DePaul and 2 in ESPN Invite. Where the schedule is probably lacking is a couple more teams with a NET around 150-200.

I am in minority, but would be nice to have Drake or UNI on schedule. They are usually pretty solid and feel it's nice to have a true road game on schedule before start of Big12 season.

As far as NCAA Tournament goes, it's 99% how we do in Big12 play. Non con is pretty meaningless unless we lose a couple games against teams sub 200 NET. Finish top 8-9 in Big12 and we are in based on conference difficulty.

 

[heitclone]

The 14 team league will water down the schedule, we won't be able to rely on the big 12 as much as we used to, the metrics just won't be as strong. Hopefully this weak non con won't hurt in March.

 

[isucy86]

The 14 team league will water down the schedule, we won't be able to rely on the big 12 as much as we used to, the metrics just won't be as strong. Hopefully this weak non con won't hurt in March.

Hasn't seemed to hurt the Big10 in getting bids.

As long as the Big12 has rep of being a top 2/3 league it will get 8 plus teams in the NCAA Tournament. We'll be OK with next years schedule as long as we finish among Big12 top 8. Only caveat is if we tank some non-con games against low NET teams. The only non-con games that matter to Selection Committee are Iowa, DePaul and the ESPN Invite.

Obviously there are other "routes" to getting a tournament bid. In 2021/22 we had some great non-con wins and even through wen went 7-11 in Big12 games, we tied for 7th and finished the regular season 20-11. This year OSU got left out going 20-15 during regular season.

 

[cyclones500]

The 14 team league will water down the schedule, we won't be able to rely on the big 12 as much as we used to, the metrics just won't be as strong. Hopefully this weak non con won't hurt in March.

It'll depend a little how the 14-team schedule distribution is set for 18-game schedule, which teams ISU gets twice vs. once, and strength of those opponents.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I’d be happy with a team or two in the 150-250 range. We play two of the worst 5 teams based on current NET, and 6 games are against bottom 100. Idaho State scrapes by at #101. I’m not asking for P6 home-and-homes, just teams with a pulse. I normally shrug at the schedule complaining, but this is impressively weak.

The invitationals are good for the team, but kind of a kick in the shins to season ticket holders. I’ll still renew.

It’s almost impossible to tell before a season. Mid-major teams in the 300’s before a game is played can easily get in to the 200’s. It’s a crap shoot once you get past the MVC level mid-majors.

 

[NWICY]

My God people are really stretching to find something to complain about today.

 

[Jer]

My God people are really stretching to find something to complain about today.

Welcome to the 2000s.

 

[NWICY]

Welcome to the 2000s.

I'll start thinking harder about BB in mid Oct.

 

[cyclones500]

It’s almost impossible to tell before a season. Mid-major teams in the 300’s before a game is played can easily get in to the 200’s. It’s a crap shoot once you get past the MVC level mid-majors.

There probably isn't a lot of leverage between the "make-bank-on-tickets/affordable buy games" and the tournaments/CyHawk/BE-Big Battle required stuff. For reliable resume boost it'd require the commonly multi-bid mid-majors (A-10 and MWC, maybe AAC) but I don't know how much it'd cost to get a home-only even if those teams are willing, much more likely it'd be neutral site.

Similar with lower-end power leagues like something in Washington State/Georgia Tech range. On average some of those would glean better NET, but probably wouldn't get more than one of those each season regardless.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

There probably isn't a lot of leverage between the "make-bank-on-tickets/affordable guy games" and the tournaments/CyHawk/BE-Big Battle required stuff. For reliable resume boost it'd require the commonly multi-bid mid-majors (A-10 and MWC, maybe AAC) but I don't know how much it'd cost to get a home-only even if those teams are willing, much more likely it'd be neutral site.

Similar with lower-end power leagues like something in Washington State/Georgia Tech range. On average some of those would glean better NET, but probably wouldn't get more than one of those each season regardless.

The going rate for a Valley/A10 level team is around $125-135k. Low majors run $75-90k depending on preseason expectations.

 

[Raiders70]

How would you change it? Who could we play?

Competitive teams.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

The going rate for a Valley/A10 level team is around $125-135k. Low majors run $75-90k depending on preseason expectations.

Should add. The AAC and MWC don't really take buys because they have football TV money that makes budgets a little easier. If you want to buy that level, it's Valley/A10/WCC and we'll see where the new CUSA ends up falling in time.

 

[ISUChippewa]

The going rate for a Valley/A10 level team is around $125-135k. Low majors run $75-90k depending on preseason expectations.

Just out of curiosity, and please know that I'm not doubting you at all. You're legit, and it's always cool to have another dual fan around here, but how exactly do you know all this stuff?

 

[Statefan10]

I wish we’d have gotten a good opponent for the Big East challenge. DePaul stinks. That would’ve helped with the optics of the schedule a bit. I’m not even upset or worried about the tournament with seeding or the NET. We’re going to be rated high enough to start the year and if we do well overall in the noncon and go .500 in conference we’ll be in the dance for sure again.

What I’m more upset about is that the Iowa game is the only home game that’s worth a damn until conference play. Granted we really only had St Johns this last year..

 

[brokenloginagain]

The going rate for a Valley/A10 level team is around $125-135k. Low majors run $75-90k depending on preseason expectations.

Where do those numbers come from?

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Just out of curiosity, and please know that I'm not doubting you at all. You're legit, and it's always cool to have another dual fan around here, but how exactly do you know all this stuff?

D1 Docket on Twitter is always a good source. You can also pick some numbers up from local MM beat writers doing FOIA requests.