Because when your conference is raided and you're left holding that bag you have to be named after a ****** western.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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If you are a Pac 12 team not named Cal, Washington State, or Oregon State you better be getting your ass on the phones and do it now.
It might be the difference between getting in the top 3 or being stuck in a zombie PAC or ACC for a while or forever
Yeah, this **** is bout to get crazy up in here.
If I'm looking down from 37,000 feet, it just makes sense to tear a few conferences apart and put the pieces back together where they fit best based on the current conference realignment tea leaves.
All about controlling the narrative and pushing the agenda.
Because we're the leftovers and they are the runaways.
Probably already in here somewhere ...............
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Agreed, but not always a guarantee. Lots of ditry laundry gets aired in a public court battle. Both sides would want to avoid that.
Sounds like the collusion is already happening. Hope the other members of the ACC are talking to their legal departments.
We will see. Without a court precedent being set on a GOR, it is unknown which way it would go.
Cool.
I guess we will never know until someone tries. Sure looks like we will get to find out here in the next few years.
Obviously the 7 schools and their lawyers think differently if they have been meeting regularly as a group and their legal folks are examining the Conference legal documents.
You seem to think they stand to lose hundreds of millions by just contesting the GOR. Groups, Corporations and individuals contest the legality of contracts all the time.
Either the schools feel they have A LOT more to gain or they are using the publicity to negotiate a different revenue sharing formula. With the 12 team playoff coming, it's a good time to push the envelop.
Find a an alumni that is a great lawyer, promise use of football suite for their lifetime. Even if there is a 1% chance, worth it for hundreds of millions.
This was in response to people saying they will deceive the other members, by hiding they have a place to go negotiated before telling the rest of the conference in order to vote to dissolve. That is just not going to happen.
I am not saying there wont be a challenge to try to leave. What I am saying is they wont do it through deceiving the other members and hoping that doesnt come out in court.
I also think you missed the part where 7 members and their lawyers have met and still no one has found a way to get out yet. Maybe they will but havent yet. And several of the members involved said it was "futile".
They dont stand to lose 100s of millions by contesting the GoR never said they did. But they have to have a standing to legally contest it. Just because you dont like what you signed years later, is not grounds. They must find something that makes it a valid suit, and then there is no guarantee.
Beyond those things, they have the issue of needing to have a deal to move to a new conference in place before they do something, sure they can discuss if they can break the GoR but before they start that all those members better know they have a better option. Which gets into the collusion issue. The other members left behind still have grounds to sue if they find out there was collusion especially with other conferences and partners to destroy a conference. This is part of the reason the B1G is treading lightly, and had to say that the schools approached them. Adding more MAY open them to lawsuits from teams left.
I can say I am going to win the lottery and marry, a supermodel. But until it happens it is just talk. In the end these schools are meeting and talking but still everything said is no one has found a way. Yet. Maybe they will, but it is obviously very difficult.
Even if they have, why would they let everyone know about it publicly until required by law?
At this point who knows, but if Washington and Oregon stick around there's a viable conference there.
Depending if ESPN/Fox/Universal et al. wants the league to survive
Oregon and Washington would definitely come into the B1G at a reduced share, and may even agree to a longer term reduced share if that was a condition of joining.
These takes are always so lame and lazy. The “value add” takes. Guarantee the Big 10 isn’t just looking at RIGHT NOW with potential adds.
So what? You “subsidize them” for a few years and your next deal is giant.
Not saying they wouldn’t be subsidizing Oregon or Washington, but they’re already subsidizing Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan State, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue, and Rutgers from that perspective. It adds a few convenient close opponents for USC and UCLA as well.
If it means Oregon and Washington take a reduced share- I’m sure they’ll gladly take it over making less in a conference with little to no exposure and virtually no stability if the doors bust open at the ACC. I think they’ll find a way to get the parties on all sides to agree there.
Last sentence is the magic around all of this.
But I'd caveat "survive" with "survive as a 2nd tier conference" - as opposed to "survive as the Mountain West Plus".
Just because an ACC school hasn't taken action, doesn't mean something isn't in the works. Prepping for a lawsuit can take a year or more.
There could also be events the schools are watching like:
- 12 team playoff money distribution formula.
- Results of pending litigation against NCAA.
