JP said he had no problem playing them as long as they came to Hilton as a buy game, which they aren’t interested in. I completely agree with him.
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JP said he had no problem playing them as long as they came to Hilton as a buy game, which they aren’t interested in. I completely agree with him.
We should not be traveling to either. They don’t want to play in Hilton. Not much you can do about.
I personally don’t care about playing either anyways.
Exactly. And if you search images of LeCorbusier, you’ll see the inspiration for Stephens auditorium.
I actually agree with the new schools on not changing the Big12 name. As soon as that goes away it's a lot easier to write off the conference as not having the prestige since OU/UT were never "in" this conference and it goes on from there.
Yeah, its all risk no reward for ISU\Iowa. There's a bunch of reasons almost no power conference team schedules ongoing home and home games with in-state midmajor teams. Its not just ISU\Iowa being "weak".
If you play them, you play teams that generally are good enough to be a threat, but not good enough to be good for your resume (and awful on your resume if you lose). And then you add the intangibles that don't show up on the team sheets but absolutely play into the games, including the familiarity effects of an ongoing series vs random one-offs you have with other lower-level teams, as well as the emotional edge from a rather one-sided "rivalry" that the lower level teams benefit from.
Even more importantly, there's simply the math of the scheduling and how many home games the program wants to have to keep season ticket holders happy. After you subtract the P5 games we generally schedule (conference, iowa, various inter-conference challenges, random home and homes we've scheduled like Oregon State) a few warm up games to start the year vs nobodies, and the neutral site tournaments, there's really not room for giving up an additional road game. And even if there was, Iowa State would benefit more from scheduling an additional P5 home and home than a home and home vs drake or uni.
My biggest takeaway: 'student athletes and staff' mentioned twice regarding the gambling issue. First I've heard staff is involved. Did I miss something here?
I don't know, if losing to drake or uni keeps us out of the tournament then so be it, we'd probably lose in the first round anyways.
No one cares about the 10 meaningless games against Arkansas a&m and Chicago state etc. If we aren't playing games that make us excited then what are doing? Why not play games that are interesting? Sure we can make it a Hilton only thing but I say we should for sure play them.
But sounds like I'm alone in this...
No one cares about the 10 meaningless games against Arkansas a&m and Chicago state etc. If we aren't playing games that make us excited then what are doing? Why not play games that are interesting? Sure we can make it a Hilton only thing but I say we should for sure play them.
But sounds like I'm alone in this...
If UNI\Drake would agree to this, the games would already have been scheduled. They won't accept that.
Restaurant/Hotel/Venue Management 101 - Don't defer maintenance!
Many of these same arguments apply to the UNI series in football as well. Wish we would take our own advice and cut that one loose too.
Arguably makes even more sense in football where W-L is all that matters instead of SoS.
The big thing it has had for it in the past is that it helps attendance a bit, but we fill the stadium for early season games on our own for the most part now. Basketball UNI doesn't move the needle at all for attendance.
UNI and Drake don't take buy games every year and when they do, other checks cash just the same.
These games are gone no matter how many consecutive summers it gets brought up. It just gets really old watching the two sides blame each other when we all know the truth lies somewhere in the middle and even if they'd admit that, the games aren't coming back anyway.
I don’t think you understand that they don’t want to play in Hilton every year, and we can’t force them to do it.
I think that’s a two for one deal. We get two home games in exchange for one away game.
I'm in the boat of playing UNI but you have to have gimmes on the schedule to help build team chemistry etc. and too bad if people aren't excited about it.
I mentioned the moody center in the facilities thread after I saw a concert there a couple of weeks ago. Holy cow does that place make Hilton look like an ancient artifact. I know we don’t have the 30 or so corporate sponsons throwing down 5-10 mil a piece but a Hilton renovation is overdue.
Nah. Horns down. Plus they really don’t give a darn about basketball.
