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I liked the O-Line talk. Is this the year the line walks the walk? Who plays besides Hufford? Simmons and Remsburg, Miller? Who else?
 

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I liked the O-Line talk. Is this the year the line walks the walk? Who plays besides Hufford? Simmons and Remsburg, Miller? Who else?
I think there will be lots of rotation. Hufford looks HUGE.

Really excited to see Clanton's first unit.
 

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I am really excited to see how the O-Line has progressed. I also like the mindset of hitting that SOB across from you as hard as you can hit him. Sure there will be some “wiffs“ or moving the defensive player into the wrong place. However, physicality will make up for these issues.

Football is a violent game, and I believe installing this attitude in linemen is better than striving for them to be “technicians.” Plus, pushing the opponent around starts to demoralize them after a while.
 

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I wouldn’t get too excited about the OL. Friends with someone on staff through kids sports. His exact words were “guys being brought in for OL the last few years don’t have the combination of size and athleticism to build the bodies needed”. Basically they are big without the skill or have the skill but the bodies can’t carry the weight necessary without a loss in performance.
 

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I am really excited to see how the O-Line has progressed. I also like the mindset of hitting that SOB across from you as hard as you can hit him. Sure there will be some “wiffs“ or moving the defensive player into the wrong place. However, physicality will make up for these issues.

Football is a violent game, and I believe installing this attitude in linemen is better than striving for them to be “technicians.” Plus, pushing the opponent around starts to demoralize them after a while.
As a former college lineman I can assure you there are plenty of “hit them as hard as you can” guys everywhere and they don’t solve OL problems. Good lineman have to be physical technicians because a ton of technique and body position goes into being successful. Overly agressive OL with bad technique are the easiest to beat, the DL just lets them put themselves out of position early and sheds them. It’s the first thing they are taught after handling initial contact. Sure you want aggressive lineman but it does not by any means cover for bad technique.
 

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As a former college lineman I can assure you there are plenty of “hit them as hard as you can” guys everywhere and they don’t solve OL problems. Good lineman have to be physical technicians because a ton of technique and body position goes into being successful. Overly agressive OL with bad technique are the easiest to beat, the DL just lets them put themselves out of position early and sheds them. It’s the first thing they are taught after handling initial contact. Sure you want aggressive lineman but it does not by any means cover for bad technique.
Helping coach o-line for 17 years in high school we always told the kids you block with your feet. being mean and aggressive is one thing but technique goes a long way
 

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The last good O line I remember was early 2000s when Mac had some true road graders up front like Marcel “cell block” Howard. Dude was like 6-7 340 and would literally pick up DEs and toss them.
 
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I wouldn’t get too excited about the OL. Friends with someone on staff through kids sports. His exact words were “guys being brought in for OL the last few years don’t have the combination of size and athleticism to build the bodies needed”. Basically they are big without the skill or have the skill but the bodies can’t carry the weight necessary without a loss in performance.

My POV after the last few years: I won't believe we have a good o-line until I see it, and I don't think it'll happen with anyone that has played so far.
 

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If the OL is anything like being portrayed so far in this thread…. it’s going to be a VERY LONG year folks. Hang on.

I’m not too worried about the defense, Heacock will work his usual magic, although it will be tough if we don’t have Lee…. but the secondary should be very solid.

But if our OL hasn’t improved…. our offense will be dog crap. Nate better install a very quick passing game…. get the ball out quick!
 

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If the OL is anything like being portrayed so far in this thread…. it’s going to be a VERY LONG year folks. Hang on.

I’m not too worried about the defense, Heacock will work his usual magic, although it will be tough if we don’t have Lee…. but the secondary should be very solid.

But if our OL hasn’t improved…. our offense will be dog crap. Nate better install a very quick passing game…. get the ball out quick!
When do we ever have threads here where any unit isn’t portrayed negatively?

Take it all with a grain of salt, until we see what happens.
 
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As a former college lineman I can assure you there are plenty of “hit them as hard as you can” guys everywhere and they don’t solve OL problems. Good lineman have to be physical technicians because a ton of technique and body position goes into being successful. Overly agressive OL with bad technique are the easiest to beat, the DL just lets them put themselves out of position early and sheds them. It’s the first thing they are taught after handling initial contact. Sure you want aggressive lineman but it does not by any means cover for bad technique.
But ”The Blind Side” makes it look so easy. Gonna have to re-watch that movie, concentrating less on Sandra Bullock. :)

As kidding aside, you know a lot more about what it takes to be a good OL than me. Just seems that our linemen have lacked a degree of aggressiveness the past few years. Plus, our running plays are slow-developing, making it hard for the linemen to hold their blocks.

On the bright side, I was pleasantly surprised to see Hufford voted preseason first team all-conference. I knew he was good, but didn’t realize he was at that level. I also have really high hopes for Miller, who I heard was essentially with one arm much of last year after suffering an early season injury.
 
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But ”The Blind Side” makes it look so easy. Gonna have to re-watch that movie, concentrating less on Sandra Bullock. :)

As kidding aside, you know a lot more about what it takes to be a good OL than me. Just seems that our linemen have lacked a degree of aggressiveness the past few years. Plus, our running plays are slow-developing, making it hard for the linemen to hold their blocks.

On the bright side, I was pleasantly surprised to see Hufford voted preseason first team all-conference. I knew he was good, but didn’t realize he was at that level. I also have really high hopes for Miller, who I heard was essentially with one arm much of last year after suffering an early season injury.
You definitely are not wrong that they struggled maintaining blocks. The ability to maintain a block is all technique. Proper first steps, footwork, hip height, and hand placement. Zone reads, etc can be insanely effective if your line can maintain lanes to read off of. But are a disaster if everything collapses fast.