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FallOf81

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It's the South. Wouldn't be surprised that a judge was paid for looking past the truth.
 
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The timing on all this still seems weird to me. That move is 14 years old, you're just now realizing you aren't seeing any profit off of it? Also most Conservatorships require accountings to the Court with legal representation for the ward. At no point in 14 years did anyone think this was strange?

At least here in Iowa, being under a Conservatorship typically takes away your ability to enter into a contract by yourself. So were they signing his NFL contracts, media deals, etc.?

It's also kind of amazing that no one ever did the digging to figure out he's under a Conservatorship and there was no adoption.

The whole thing just seems odd to me.

If they were signing contracts for him, wouldn't someone check to make sure that they were actually authorized to do so?
 

Cyhig

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Did he have an agent in the NFL? If so I'm surprised they didn't look into it.
Yes, he had an agent. His agent was the same person who helped file the conservatorship petition (Debra Branon). On the surface, it appears the Tuohys were controlling everything
 
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I'm so sorry I ever watched that movie. It was just so over the top with making whatever her name is as some savior. And they way the portrayed Oher as such a slow almost dumb kid was a joke. Kid was always bright and an outstanding athlete way before the Touhys took advantage of the situation.

The popularity of that movie is the reason I learned that rich people adopting good athletes was a thing
 

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Yes, he had an agent. His agent was the same person who helped file the conservatorship petition (Debra Branon). On the surface, it appears the Tuohys were controlling everything
Who also apparently was good friends with Mrs. Tuohy.
 
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The interview with Sean Tuohy Jr is at the end of the podcast. He says there is going to be an article coming out in the Atlantic that explains in detail the finances and where the money went. He says there are family group texts back to 2020 where Oher asks for money to keep things quiet, and is basically disputing Oher's assertion that Oher didn't know about the conservatorship until 2023. Also says that Oher has previously sued the movie studio regarding various aspects of the movie and lost.

My take from this interview is that the movie made a ton of money over the years, the real life family didn't get that much, and Oher thinks he should be getting a bigger cut. Apparently this will all be coming out in the Atlantic article, but Jr. did list the amounts he received from the movie (about $70,000).

Also an article in the Daily Memphian (behind a paywall) where the father says they were advised by lawyers that they couldn't adopt at age 18.


I guess we'll see what the Atlantic article says, but if it goes down like Tuohy Jr asserts in this podcast, I don't think this will be a particularly good look for Oher.
 
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The interview with Sean Tuohy Jr is at the end of the podcast. He says there is going to be an article coming out in the Atlantic that explains in detail the finances and where the money went. He says there are family group texts back to 2020 where Oher asks for money to keep things quiet, and is basically disputing Oher's assertion that Oher didn't know about the conservatorship until 2023. Also says that Oher has previously sued the movie studio regarding various aspects of the movie and lost.

My take from this interview is that the movie made a ton of money over the years, the real life family didn't get that much, and Oher thinks he should be getting a bigger cut. Apparently this will all be coming out in the Atlantic article, but Jr. did list the amounts he received from the movie (about $70,000).

Also an article in the Daily Memphian (behind a paywall) where the father says they were advised by lawyers that they couldn't adopt at age 18.


I guess we'll see what the Atlantic article says, but if it goes down like Tuohy Jr asserts in this podcast, I don't think this will be a particularly good look for Oher.
I haven’t listened to the interview, and will wait for the Atlantic article, but it’s important to note that just as Other’s lawsuit presents his allegations/his side of the story, that Atlantic article will most likely present the Tuohys in the best possible light.

Also, one important thing will be when Oher knew that the conservatorship did not make him part of the family. Oher mentions the conservatorship in his previous book from about a decade ago. The lawsuit alleges he just found out this year he was legally not a part of their family.

Also, I guess it’s possible they were told they couldn’t adopt at age 18, but it looks like adult adoptions are a thing in Tennessee (maybe they weren’t when he was 18, but you’d think they would try that avenue later). Also, the attorney will not be able refute that (due to confidentiality rules), so that’s an easy claim to make.

Finally, even if they couldn’t legally adopt him, I have no idea why they would have pursued a conservatorship unless they had bad motives. Those things are nothing alike. Instead you’d say “we can’t legally adopt you, but you’re our son so we’re going to change our estate plans, change our beneficiary designations, notify the hospital you have visitation rights, etc. to reflect that.”
 

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The interview with Sean Tuohy Jr is at the end of the podcast. He says there is going to be an article coming out in the Atlantic that explains in detail the finances and where the money went. He says there are family group texts back to 2020 where Oher asks for money to keep things quiet, and is basically disputing Oher's assertion that Oher didn't know about the conservatorship until 2023. Also says that Oher has previously sued the movie studio regarding various aspects of the movie and lost.

My take from this interview is that the movie made a ton of money over the years, the real life family didn't get that much, and Oher thinks he should be getting a bigger cut. Apparently this will all be coming out in the Atlantic article, but Jr. did list the amounts he received from the movie (about $70,000).

Also an article in the Daily Memphian (behind a paywall) where the father says they were advised by lawyers that they couldn't adopt at age 18.


I guess we'll see what the Atlantic article says, but if it goes down like Tuohy Jr asserts in this podcast, I don't think this will be a particularly good look for Oher.
There are always two sides to each story. We are only hearing about Oher's side right now. I will be interested to hear the Tuohy's side to the story. In the end, this story may not be a good look for both Oher and the Tuohy's.
 

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I haven’t listened to the interview, and will wait for the Atlantic article, but it’s important to note that just as Other’s lawsuit presents his allegations/his side of the story, that Atlantic article will most likely present the Tuohys in the best possible light.

Also, one important thing will be when Oher knew that the conservatorship did not make him part of the family. Oher mentions the conservatorship in his previous book from about a decade ago. The lawsuit alleges he just found out this year he was legally not a part of their family.

Also, I guess it’s possible they were told they couldn’t adopt at age 18, but it looks like adult adoptions are a thing in Tennessee (maybe they weren’t when he was 18, but you’d think they would try that avenue later). Also, the attorney will not be able refute that (due to confidentiality rules), so that’s an easy claim to make.

Finally, even if they couldn’t legally adopt him, I have no idea why they would have pursued a conservatorship unless they had bad motives. Those things are nothing alike. Instead you’d say “we can’t legally adopt you, but you’re our son so we’re going to change our estate plans, change our beneficiary designations, notify the hospital you have visitation rights, etc. to reflect that.”
The NY Post article linked above indicates the conservatorship was pursued so he would "legally" be a part of the family and there wouldn't be any "issues" or "questions" about Oher attending Ole Miss where the Tuohy's were also significant boosters. Admittedly, NAL so no idea the legitimacy of these claims.
 

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I haven’t listened to the interview, and will wait for the Atlantic article, but it’s important to note that just as Other’s lawsuit presents his allegations/his side of the story, that Atlantic article will most likely present the Tuohys in the best possible light.

Also, one important thing will be when Oher knew that the conservatorship did not make him part of the family. Oher mentions the conservatorship in his previous book from about a decade ago. The lawsuit alleges he just found out this year he was legally not a part of their family.

Also, I guess it’s possible they were told they couldn’t adopt at age 18, but it looks like adult adoptions are a thing in Tennessee (maybe they weren’t when he was 18, but you’d think they would try that avenue later). Also, the attorney will not be able refute that (due to confidentiality rules), so that’s an easy claim to make.

Finally, even if they couldn’t legally adopt him, I have no idea why they would have pursued a conservatorship unless they had bad motives. Those things are nothing alike. Instead you’d say “we can’t legally adopt you, but you’re our son so we’re going to change our estate plans, change our beneficiary designations, notify the hospital you have visitation rights, etc. to reflect that.”

That's what I was going to ask. Admittedly don't know much about it but I thought a conservatorship was for an adult who wasn't capable of making sound decisions themselves, due to some kind of mental or physical disability.
 

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That's what I was going to ask. Admittedly don't know much about it but I thought a conservatorship was for an adult who wasn't capable of making sound decisions themselves, due to some kind of mental or physical disability.

It honestly sounds much more like a power of attorney than a Conservatorship. I could see a scenario where he didn't want to deal with all the contracts regarding the movie and signed over a POA to allow the Touhys to sign for him. But you are right, a Conservatorship requires a legal finding that the protected person cannot handle their own finances. At least here in Iowa, it requires him to have representation, requires the Court to make a finding regarding competency, etc. It's also a court proceeding that could have been discovered with even an ounce of diligence by the media.

None of this adds up to me.
 

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Regardless of what Oher did or didn’t know at the time, it’s pretty creepy that this family put an 18 year old in a conservatorship and didn’t pay him a dime from a blockbuster film about his life.
 

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I haven’t listened to the interview, and will wait for the Atlantic article, but it’s important to note that just as Other’s lawsuit presents his allegations/his side of the story, that Atlantic article will most likely present the Tuohys in the best possible light.
Why would you assume that? The elder Tuohys are a wealthy southern conservative family. Given what I've seen from the The Atlantic over the last few years, if I had to make an assumption, I'd assume the opposite.
 
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