ISU Gambling Megathread

[Rabbuk]

I have no idea what the conditions of licensure are in other states. That's part of keeping your license to operate in Iowa.

It's very similar to how banks are supposed to have kyc policies in place I assume. It's proactive at banks.

 

[isufbcurt]

It's up to the NCAA if he can play.

I'm guessing Campbell is finished with Dekkers. But not Remsburg.

Reread the post I replied to they asked if Dekkers is a current cyclone. And that is up to Campbell if he stays a Cyclone (member of the team).

 

[Clonefan32]

Why is it a waste? Because you don't like your fanboy crushes called on their stupidity?

Its just as likely that investigation expenditures were in-line with the alleged crimes. Some of you act like the DCI put every agent on this case 24/7. The reason this became so high profile had little to do with them. Its because: 1) sports gambling is a hot topic nationwide, and 2) these college athletes are the closest thing the state of Iowa has to famous people.

Are you serious? A DCI Investigation into what results in the same type of ticket as an MIP isn't wasteful? You don't think that tracing the timing of the account setups, bets, locations, etc. didn't take DCI manpower?

This is, without a doubt, something that could have been handled informally without the need for the DCI and a prosecutor's office.

 

[BCClone]

How are the books only finding Iowa State and Iowa Athletes? Do the books look at other states? Do the books only look at Iowa? Strange

Probably only found the athletes who were dumb enough to bet on campus.

 

[3TrueFans]

Are you serious? A DCI Investigation into what results in the same type of ticket as an MIP isn't wasteful? You don't think that tracing the timing of the account setups, bets, locations, etc. didn't take DCI manpower?

This is, without a doubt, something that could have been handled informally without the need for the DCI and a prosecutor's office.

What does "handled informally" mean?

This is just part of DCI's job, they investigate potential gambling offenses.

 

[stewart092284]

Probably only found the athletes who were dumb enough to bet on campus.

Yep.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Are you serious? A DCI Investigation into what results in the same type of ticket as an MIP isn't wasteful? You don't think that tracing the timing of the account setups, bets, locations, etc. didn't take DCI manpower?

This is, without a doubt, something that could have been handled informally without the need for the DCI and a prosecutor's office.

The DCI didn't really have to investigate anything. The book's software gave them all the info.

 

[NWICY]

Tired of people trying to whitewash this. They f*cked up and knowingly broke the rules. That's the way the cookie crumbles when you get caught.

 

[carvers4math]

For what it’s worth, Dekkers is still listed as a student in the online directory

 

[werdnamanhill]

For what it’s worth, Dekkers is still listed as a student in the online directory

He's on the official roster still as well.

 

[Drew0311]

Probably only found the athletes who were dumb enough to bet on campus.

I get that but you are telling me that only in Iowa they did this? Our state is the only one dumb enough to bet on campus? I am not buying it. Something went down to target our two schools almost to send a warning to other states (SEC Teams) and we are being made the example.

 

[Clonefan32]

Tired of people trying to whitewash this. They f*cked up and knowingly broke the rules. That's the way the cookie crumbles when you get caught.

Again, there's a difference between NCAA eligibility rules and bringing a legal proceeding. I have no issue with their eligibility being questioned. But the end result of all of this is a damn ticket. Law enforcement and prosecutors exercise charging discretion ALL THE TIME on minor offenses like this. It didn't have to reach this level.

Profoundly dumb and irresponsible, absolutely. But requiring the services of the DCI and Story County Prosecutor? Not in my opinion.

 

[CascadeClone]

If it were up to Campbell, Dekkers and the rest would be back today. He sees it as the witch hunt it is

I would guess CMC is more mad at Dekkers about doing something "me first" and dumb - than he is mad about the actual crime itself. And witch hunt, trumped up charge, or boondoggle... it was still a really stupid thing to do. Reminds me of "nothing good happens after midnight" - just don't put yourself in places where something bad could happen.

I would also guess if CMC thinks Dekkers is a good guy, will learn from this, and can contribute to the team then he will let him back on the team. If CMC thinks Dekkers is selfish and not a good leader (as some on here have claimed) then he will probably tell him to move on for a fresh start elsewhere.

 

[3TrueFans]

I get that but you are telling me that only in Iowa they did this? Our state is the only one dumb enough to bet on campus? I am not buying it. Something went down to target our two schools almost to send a warning to other states (SEC Teams) and we are being made the example.

The start of a juicy conspiracy theory.

 

[BCClone]

I get that but you are telling me that only in Iowa they did this? Our state is the only one dumb enough to bet on campus? I am not buying it. Something went down to target our two schools almost to send a warning to other states (SEC Teams) and we are being made the example.

It was a state thing. Guess we just want to be more law abiding? I don’t know.

 

[2122]

Can't imagine Casino Boy coming back. Yuck.

Casino Boy? My understanding is this betting was done not in any casino but via app using a cell phone. Right?
I'd be surprised if there is a single college football program - in any of the more than 20 states in which online sports gambling was as of 2022 legal https://www.inquirer.com/sports/betting/legal-sports-betting-states.html - that did not have players place wagers on sports. And every bit of that gambling was recorded and available to law enforcement just like here in Iowa. So what gives? I'm no lawyer, but selective prosecution, selective enforcement come to mind....

 

[1UNI2ISU]

I get that but you are telling me that only in Iowa they did this? Our state is the only one dumb enough to bet on campus? I am not buying it. Something went down to target our two schools almost to send a warning to other states (SEC Teams) and we are being made the example.

Most of your football heavy schools in the south don't have legal betting so it's a non-issue and the baseball coach from Bama that tried to go around it and leave the state still got caught.

I have no idea what the conditions of licensure are in other states but the Iowa license specifically put the emphasis of enforcement of prohibiting any 'athletics related individuals' from placing bets on the books themselves so they geofenced athletics facilities at Iowa, Iowa State and UNI (and maybe Drake and Upper Iowa). The software picks up anybody that walks into any facility with the app on their phone and then tracks that account for bets.

 

[VeloClone]

But somebody must have requested/ordered the books to look into betting activity within the facilities. If not, and the books just did it on their own, then why aren't the books doing the same thing in other states?

Just another rumor but my buddy says that he found out from somebody inside the Iowa AD that this all started when that Iowa baseball player set up an account in his mother's name without her knowing about it. When she started getting stuff from the book she thought her identity had been stolen and went to the authorities with it. That got the whole ball rolling.

Take it for what it is worth as second or third hand information.

 

[Land Grant]

I get that but you are telling me that only in Iowa they did this? Our state is the only one dumb enough to bet on campus? I am not buying it. Something went down to target our two schools almost to send a warning to other states (SEC Teams) and we are being made the example.

Oh, grow up.

 

[Drew0311]

Oh, grow up.

Ok Dad