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BryceC

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ISU was outgained by 29 yards yet ran only 45 plays compared to 72 for UNI. They got 2 interceptions, one of which was a pick 6 that eliminated a possession and dominated the special teams. They didn't need to gain many yards to score. They played with short fields. When you actually look at the numbers, it was a pretty dominat performance. Usually not something that happens against UNI so why not be confident.

Yeah we had 30 yards in the first quarter for example. We had two drives - one that got killed by a crappy holding call and the next started on the 21 yard line and we got a TD. There just isn’t a lot of yards to be hard in those cases.
 
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Very true. And while I personally can't stand Farley - I don't see UNI being bad;. He's too good of a coach for that.

I also don't know if they are FCS playoff worthy but I don't think they will be bad.


The biggest thing that surprised me about Iowa was how very "meh" their offensive line looked. Now, I know they could make a bunch of improvement since that is the saying from week 1 to week 2 BUT - for that program, it was very very meh up front.


They're never to very rarely going to have a ton of perimeter talent. But they generally good at OL. Right now, I'm not sure they are




If we were more experienced I'd say spreading them out, Iowa can be had a little defensively early in the season. By condensing the field though I think kinda plays into where they are stronger at the moment

Iowa hasn't had an above average offensive line in years. They always have one solid piece that ends up getting drafted but the rest are meh. Post Doyle the o-line has been flat out bad.
 
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Kirk must have a job lined up for BF next year. There is no way that he would do the stupid 25 pts per game and not have a backup plan. The publicity that it is getting is very high (because of the low amount and including all points) so if BF doesn't get it, he has basically tanked his career. All I can think is he fires the OL coach and puts him there. Some have mentioned going back to NE but even old Bill is getting a warm seat.

The 25 points per game is nothing more than a PR stunt. Kirk knew Barta was on his way out the door so Barta drew up the bogus contract KNOWING how weak the 2023 schedule would be. Goetz has already came out and said that wins is how the team will be judged. LMAO Iowa fans are stupid gullible.
 

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Yeah we had 30 yards in the first quarter for example. We had two drives - one that got killed by a crappy holding call and the next started on the 21 yard line and we got a TD. There just isn’t a lot of yards to be hard in those cases.
The big thing that even I just realized is we capitalized on the field position, which is something we failed to do last year miserably. Honestly if you go drive-by-drive of the offense (until we got up 30-0), we did pretty darn well. The poor drives were mostly caused by penalties.

Drive 1 - Punt : Two positive plays, both for around 10 yards and both called back for holding.
Drive 2 - TD : Good PR results in a short field and we punched it in.
Drive 3 - Punt : Poor field position results in a punt. Had 4th and 1 but didn't want to risk it.
Drive 4 - Punt : *JJ Kohl first drive* stalled out.
Drive 5 - Punt : Took a good shot down the field on 1stD. Bad OL play caused Rocco to bail on 3rdD.
Drive 6 - TD : Abu Sama had two very nice runs. Rocco goes 4-4 for 47 yards and a TD.
Drive 7 - FG : 56 yards from Contreraz
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Drive 8 - TD : Two penalties on UNI, two solid runs by our RBs, and a dime ball to Brahmer.
Drive 9 - Punt : *JJ Kohl*
Drive 10 - Punt : *JJ Kohl*
Drive 11 - Punt : Vanilla, ending the game
Drive 12 - Punt : Vanilla, ending the game
FINAL

Overall, it wasn't that bad offensively. As I said before, we were testing out two QBs which needed to happen. Rocco didn't make a single bad play, and honestly when he was in, our offense moved the ball well. We had two TD drives of 70+ yards. 50% of Rocco's drives ended in a TD (not counting the last two where we literally milked the clock and threw it once).
 
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Those that are rational can say its probably a coin flip game and they won't bet on it.
I can see either team winning TBH.
For sure a tossup game. Rivalries are always unpredictable. I’m just saying to the irrationals……believe in the team you root for a little more. It’s not all negative all of the time. Lots of positive things to hang onto.
 

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Had to check it out. I think I see what you are getting at now. It’s a Hawkeye fan that made that.
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The big thing that even I just realized is we capitalized on the field position, which is something we failed to do last year miserably. Honestly if you go drive-by-drive of the offense (until we got up 30-0), we did pretty darn well. The poor drives were mostly caused by penalties.

Drive 1 - Punt : Two positive plays, both for around 10 yards and both called back for holding.
Drive 2 - TD : Good PR results in a short field and we punched it in.
Drive 3 - Punt : Poor field position results in a punt. Had 4th and 1 but didn't want to risk it.
Drive 4 - Punt : *JJ Kohl first drive* stalled out.
Drive 5 - Punt : Took a good shot down the field on 1stD. Bad OL play caused Rocco to bail on 3rdD.
Drive 6 - TD : Abu Sama had two very nice runs. Rocco goes 4-4 for 47 yards and a TD.
Drive 7 - FG : 56 yards from Contreraz
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Drive 8 - TD : Two penalties on UNI, two solid runs by our RBs, and a dime ball to Brahmer.
Drive 9 - Punt : *JJ Kohl*
Drive 10 - Punt : *JJ Kohl*
Drive 11 - Punt : Vanilla, ending the game
Drive 12 - Punt : Vanilla, ending the game
FINAL

Overall, it wasn't that bad offensively. As I said before, we were testing out two QBs which needed to happen. Rocco didn't make a single bad play, and honestly when he was in, our offense moved the ball well. We had two TD drives of 70+ yards. 50% of Rocco's drives ended in a TD (not counting the last two where we literally milked the clock and threw it once).
So, I disagree. Not that you are wrong

A) That's what every team in America can say other than those who lose by 30-50. If that would have happened, or this etc... Iowa dropped a pick 6. Clemson had what, 4-5 drives end in no points in Duke territory? So you're not wrong but everyone can say that. So I don't put a ton of faith in that.

B) We got stuffed repeatedly in the goal line before that 4th down sneak.

C) We have a massive OL, a big physical RB and we failed to wear down a smaller FCS team on a hot day with 900 Tight ends as well. Vanilla or not, that's not extremely encouraging.

D) By game plan or personnel or both, we still have zero twitch on the perimeter. Noel is fast, and a very, very good receiver. But I wouldn't call him twitchy. Bitter is reliable. Stanley is fast. But they're more track fast. I don't see a Milton pre injury or a JJ Moses or even Landen Akers. Where we can throw a simple bubble and he might shake a guy for 20-30 yards any time.

I'd say we were average. We had drives and moments where we were above, drives and moments where we were below.

IDK for sure if average is going to be good enough to get to a bowl game. It might be if ST continues to operate at a high level but if ST drops or slips up or defense has a rare bad game, all of which will probably happen over the course of a season...


we're going to need IMO to be C+ to B- over 12 games on offense to go bowling.
I think Saturday we were a solid C.


And that's not bad with young quarterbacks. And there was plenty of promise even.

But personally I can't say we were good on offense. Because my eyeballs tell me otherwise but that's just my own personal opinion and everyone's entitled to that
 
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"Iowa State is still working through the issues around the sports gambling controversy,"...

No, they are not.

Lazy, lazy writing on both teams.
Kinda? I mean, you are correct, they're not but at the same time, I'd think Remsburg would have been starting if able to and obviously, with Deckers the offense may or may not have looked different presuming he was starting.

So while you are right, the situation is 100% resolved from a legal POV and the team is moving on and have put it behind them, etc - it is still somewhat effecting the roster


But overall yes, very lazy writing, on that I 100% agree. There is a little grey area though remaining in terms of certain plays not being there are still felt more than others IMO

Most notably Remsburg. I think there's a connection that before the injuries started and now this obviously, his playing time coincided with the OL playing fairly well. He has the physical ability (If healthy) and right to be an NFL tackle. That's not easy to replace
 

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I don't remember there being obvious injuries... but if there was a room we could afford one, even though I like Eli, it might be RB. Sure, we get younger but we do have two talented freshies and of course the hammer in Norton.
 
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So, I disagree. Not that you are wrong

A) That's what every team in America can say other than those who lose by 30-50. If that would have happened, or this etc... Iowa dropped a pick 6. Clemson had what, 4-5 drives end in no points in Duke territory? So you're not wrong but everyone can say that. So I don't put a ton of faith in that.

B) We got stuffed repeatedly in the goal line before that 4th down sneak.

C) We have a massive OL, a big physical RB and we failed to wear down a smaller FCS team on a hot day with 900 Tight ends as well. Vanilla or not, that's not extremely encouraging.

D) By game plan or personnel or both, we still have zero twitch on the perimeter. Noel is fast, and a very, very good receiver. But I wouldn't call him twitchy. Bitter is reliable. Stanley is fast. But they're more track fast. I don't see a Milton pre injury or a JJ Moses or even Landen Akers. Where we can throw a simple bubble and he might shake a guy for 20-30 years any time.

I'd say we were average. We had drives and moments where we were above, drives and moments where we were below.

IDK for sure if average is going to be good enough to get to a bowl game. It might be if ST continues to operate at a high level but if ST drops or slips up or defense has a rare bad game, all of which will probably happen over the course of a season...


we're going to need IMO to be C+ to B- over 12 games on offense to go bowling.
I think Saturday we were a solid C.


And that's not bad with young quarterbacks. And there was plenty of promise even.

But personally I can't say we were good on offense. Because my eyeballs tell me otherwise but that's just my own personal opinion and everyone's entitled to that
Yeah I can get on board with what you’re saying. I will say that on the first drive we got great push and the hold was not needed by Noel. Same with Simmons hold on the next play. Ball was out to Klotz right away. Who knows what that drive nets though.

We actually ran the ball okay. Our ypc was fine. The drive where we got stuffed isn’t as bad as you’re saying. I don’t like that Sanders was in there, but even so, we got 8 yards before getting stuffed on one play and then we got a small QB in on a sneak.

UNI is a well coached team. When it was clear we were not going to be aggressive, they stacked the box and sent run blitzes. If you look at the drives where we didn’t have JJ in, or we weren’t just running it to drain the clock, we were above average. We have been much much worse against UNI.

I do agree on the WRs. They didn’t show much, but we also didn’t throw the ball much. Gonna have to put a pin in that.