Campbell’s Offense

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Man, imagine being Tom Manning and watching Campbell fire you only to hire a new guy to run the same plays. Would have me scratching my head. Might as well keep the guy if you're not gonna change anything else!
 

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I think he does that to challenge our players to get stronger and better as the season goes on. The last 4 times Campbell lost to Iowa, we improved greatly as the season went on. Hopefully that will be the case again this year.
I wouldn't say we got better in 2021. And IDK about 2019. Maybe?
 

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In year 8, it’s pretty clear that CMC is a stubborn coach that has a vison for how football is played and that his approach and culture is the path to success. He trusts Heacock - his OCs not so much. What’s frustrating is that I’d be hard pressed to describe his approach in a sentence. What’s CMC’s identity? He’s builder I guess, find good kids, gives them a place to play where winning isn’t everything, and has a decent eye for some talent with the recent NFL talent. Got hot in 2020 with a Covid year.

ISU is the perfect place for him. Fans are happy with a bowl for the most part. Expectations are mediocre. No big donors demanding change. What pressure does he really have to do something different? He makes good $$. I’m not saying he’s fleecing the taxpayers of Iowa, but he’s in the perfect place to stubbornly work his vision. Pollard has given him lots of say over the program and CMC is more than happy to plug away at his vision of culture and margins. Unfortunately, it’s not the most exciting vision for fans. His coaching style seems to be regressing outlying talent to the team ’norm’ as opposed to adjusting the team to take advantage of unique, exceptional talent.

I respect CMC and yet that’s not the world of today’s FBS football. The Big 12, starting this year and really kicking in next year, is wide open - the traditional powers will be gone. With KU, UCF, Utah and Colorado looking to shake things up - I fear ISU football will be outside looking in and Pollard will be looking for a new coach in 5 years after several sub 500 seasons.
 

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Were you saying we were very mid when we got guys like Purdy, Kolar, Montgomery, and Anthony Johnson?

Our offense is starting I think two seniors and 2 or 3 juniors. We’re young and just faced the best defense we’ll face all season…
It doesn't seem that ISU has those kinds of players now.

We heard the same "just faced the best defense of the year" mantra last year after the Iowa win when folks were concerned about the offense. 5 Big-12 teams held ISU within one score of what ISU scored against Iowa.
 

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I hope someone can review each game the last 3 years and put figures around our play calling tendencies. I’m sure we run it on 75% of first downs
 

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It’s embarrassing year after year we play into how Iowa wants us to. If you don’t trust the QB you should have been harder in the portal, but tough to blame that when the game plan was same with Purdy . Campbell done a lot of good things but tough to not label him a below average in game coach.
 

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The o line was the best part of our offense today. There is very little skill, but cambell didn't used to be this vanilla either.

It's too bad because people are getting sick of this, it's really hard to watch. I think people will start voting with their wallets and ticket purchases if we don't show something soon.

I just don't want this to get sideways, but that first drive of the second half really really has me worried. Just no new wrinkle, no sense of urgency, just nothing.
This just in. All our talent people are gone. Campbell doesn't do the portal. This is the new normal.
 

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The nickel and dime offense won't work at this level but I understand he is in a tough spot with his expected QB getting caught in gambling activity and forced to use a freshman.

Question is do cyclone fans have patience to sit through a second consecutive struggling season?
 

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You don't have to do the portal, just evaluate and develop.

One of the weirdest thins to me is we do that defensively. We lose NFLers on defense and don't seem to drop off.

We lose NFLers on offense and well, yeah.

I really am a bit confused as to why there is such a huge difference.
 

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Apparently the OC pulled up his game plan designed around Dekkers and the other missing pieces and called it good......NOT GOOD

Winning programs design their plays, offence and defense, around the players they have, not the players they wish that they had.

Basic coaching rules:
If a play up the middle works say once out of six times, don't use it again.
If you have a receiver that can't catch the ball, don't throw to him.
If you have an option play, use all three options don't just hand off.
If you have a raw quarterback, baby steps.
Don't throw long passes on third down if you only need two yards.
 
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The nickel and dime offense won't work at this level but I understand he is in a tough spot with his expected QB getting caught in gambling activity and forced to use a freshman.

Question is do cyclone fans have patience to sit through a second consecutive struggling season?
We need to stop acting like we're the only college playing a freshman quarterback, redshirt or otherwise. Its no longer 1985.

Nothing against Rocco but Kohl with that arm, give us a different dimension we haven't had - maybe ever under Campbell. Yes, there will be mistakes but that was the one reason I thought he might have a chance. He's a big dude whose mobile with a strong arm.
 

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Apparently the OC pulled up his game plan designed around Dekkers and the other missing pieces and called it good......NOT GOOD

Winning programs design their plays, offence and defense, around the players they have, not the players they wish that they had.


If you have a raw quarterback, baby steps.
Don't throw long passes on third down if you only need two yards.
No and no.

The idea of baby steps is 1985. You need to do what he does best. Give him half a field. It doesn't mean you can't throw deep or ask him to throw it 50 times. It means if you're throwing it 50 times, make it be 50 throws with routes he's good at reading. that might mean its only 3-4 route concepts. But you don't limit the offense too much or else you end up averaging 2.8 yards a carry against a stacked box...

oh wait.
 
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In year 8, it’s pretty clear that CMC is a stubborn coach that has a vison for how football is played and that his approach and culture is the path to success. He trusts Heacock - his OCs not so much. What’s frustrating is that I’d be hard pressed to describe his approach in a sentence. What’s CMC’s identity? He’s builder I guess, find good kids, gives them a place to play where winning isn’t everything, and has a decent eye for some talent with the recent NFL talent. Got hot in 2020 with a Covid year.

ISU is the perfect place for him. Fans are happy with a bowl for the most part. Expectations are mediocre. No big donors demanding change. What pressure does he really have to do something different? He makes good $$. I’m not saying he’s fleecing the taxpayers of Iowa, but he’s in the perfect place to stubbornly work his vision. Pollard has given him lots of say over the program and CMC is more than happy to plug away at his vision of culture and margins. Unfortunately, it’s not the most exciting vision for fans. His coaching style seems to be regressing outlying talent to the team ’norm’ as opposed to adjusting the team to take advantage of unique, exceptional talent.

I respect CMC and yet that’s not the world of today’s FBS football. The Big 12, starting this year and really kicking in next year, is wide open - the traditional powers will be gone. With KU, UCF, Utah and Colorado looking to shake things up - I fear ISU football will be outside looking in and Pollard will be looking for a new coach in 5 years after several sub 500 seasons.

Might as well get used to it. Campbell isn't going anywhere.