Williams & Blum Pod: Cy-Hawk lumps & the rest of the season

[Rogue52]

Just chiming in to express my 2023 CyHawk experience in the lower half of section 29. There were a lot of Hawkeye fans in the section with no altercations; however, the significant difference between Hawkeye visiting fans and other teams is that Hawkeyes are much more vocal in-game. That includes legitimate cheering for their team, yelling at refs, etc. As long as it is not derogatory, it is well within their right. It is just different and likely what leads to altercations. I travel to a lot of away games and stay mostly quiet except for clapping/cheering good plays. That is on purpose, because you are in enemy territory and aren't looking for a fight. This is coming from someone who is normally very vocal inside of Jack Trice.

 

[CloniesForLife]

Right?

All our best years recently we've lost to Iowa and gone on to have good seasons. I want to beat Iowa more but a bowl game is definitely still in reach. Overreacting to one game in college football is a little crazy.

 

[CloniesForLife]

That's probably every CyHawk game since Matt started minus last year and his first year. Outplay them statistically but horrible TOs or STs mistakes

 

[Bigman38]

Correct, and also correct about this game. I had less negative interactions this game but his experience this game has been my experience going back every game for the last 15 years or so. Just some absolutely atrocious behavior by Iowa fans in the stadium around me that makes the game absolutely horrible.

Again, guys in the press don't have to deal with this stuff. They park in their spots and go straight to the box. It annoys the ever loving crap out of me when they complain about people getting mad about stuff on the internet when people like me say they hate this game. The traffic, incredibly boring games, super drunk a-holes on both sides have made this game just awful.

I still love this game, with the * that I'll never go to another one in person. Experienced it enough times to know that I'm going to enjoy myself much more watching it on TV.

 

[NATEizKING]

We have chanted F Bohannon, Tyrese, and even poor McGary in Hilton so kids aren't safe anywhere if language is of concern. That won't ever change for Iowa or Kansas games. On that note, sell booze at JTS and Hilton.

 

[Gunnerclone]

All our best years recently we've lost to Iowa and gone on to have good seasons. I want to beat Iowa more but a bowl game is definitely still in reach. Overreacting to one game in college football is a little crazy.

This is my somewhat hot take on this topic:

At least having some kind of parity with Iowa (.500 would be great, even 1/3 with even a two year winning streak thrown in every so often) is more important to the overall health and consistency of the program than going to Liberty Bowls and Independence Bowls. I think this is going to be more magnified as the playoff expands and the new conferences come online and bowls get even more meaningless than they are now.

With the 12 team playoff lesser (than the blue bloods) schools that can get there consistently or have an idea they will have a team good enough to make it the next year are going to come poaching players from schools like ISU. We have to get right in a hurry imo.

 

[CloniesForLife]

This is my somewhat hot take on this topic:

At least having some kind of parity with Iowa (.500 would be great, even 1/3 with even a two year winning streak thrown in every so often) is more important to the overall health and consistency of the program than going to Liberty Bowls and Independence Bowls. I think this is going to be more magnified as the playoff expands and the new conferences come online and bowls get even more meaningless than they are now.

With the 12 team playoff lesser (than the blue bloods) schools that can get there consistently or have an idea they will have a team good enough to make it the next year are going to come poaching players from schools like ISU. We have to get right in a hurry imo.

From an overall view of the program I do agree that we need to start beating Iowa more. It is important. I'm just saying in the context of this year we have a lot to play for still and there is enough talent on the team to get to 6 or 7 wins. Too early to give up on this season because we have lost to Iowa like we've done very consistently lately

 

[madguy30]

I just don’t know why we have to give up on the season right now.

People were throwing it away in August because there are new players.

At some point they started thinking a sports team just stays the same the whole way through like there's no variation due to all sorts of things. It happened with basketball last season.

Teams improve, they get worse or max out, there's highs and lows, etc. It's why we watch.

 

[cyfan92]

Another year where we are the analytical "better team", yet we have 1 win under CMC and haven't won in JTS since the Obama Administration...

 

[ca4cy]

All our best years recently we've lost to Iowa and gone on to have good seasons. I want to beat Iowa more but a bowl game is definitely still in reach. Overreacting to one game in college football is a little crazy.

It's not one game that people are reacting to in this case. It's almost a decade worth of games in a "rivalry" where we've managed to eek out one win when the other team had one of the worst starting QBs since the invention of the forward pass. Nobody that I know was expecting great things this season, but we once again watched a very winnable game pass us by for reasons that remain all too similar to years past.

 

[TheJackWePack5]

I just don’t know why we have to give up on the season right now.

This! The team is going to get better, it basically has to with the inexperience we have at key positions.

If we’re sitting here at 3-1 in two weeks (I think we have a good shot to do so), we’re probably all pretty happy.

 

[isucy86]

It's one game. So no reason as a fan base to overreact. We've had great seasons even after an abisimal early loss to Iowa. So if this team can grow on offense- we still have a shot at a bowl game.

But I think Campbell needs to have the goal of ISU having a dynamic offense as the season progresses. The idea of being just a little better than our opponents led to a disappointing 2021 season and a disastrous 2022 season. We just aren't built to make game changing plays on defense or special teams.

We need to have some swagger on offense. Over the next month, the mindset should be developing an offense that scores 30ppg. If that puts Rocco at risk on RPO's, then Kohl has to be ready.

I know Iowa's got a solid defense. But having a run game average around 3 ypc and pass game at 5 ypa sounds like we've really boxed-in our offense. I can't believe our talent is that bad or youth that limiting.

 

[BCClone]

Why are we young?
If we are so young, why did we only bring in 3 transfers?
Why were players gambling?
Who's in charge?
Is this 5 star culture?

If you have to ask, you are either dumb or a troll. I guess both is one also.

 

[isu81]

Listening to Blum make excuses for Campbell is just insufferable. He makes it sound like it’s David vs Goliath.

He's got experience in this role.

 

[brentblum]

He's got experience in this role.

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[erikbj]

ISU had a freshman QB going up against Phil Parker - he made one big mistake that was the difference in the game.

Both teams have top 5 defenses in the country - someone was going to lose - ISU with freshman signal caller versus having a Senior with lots of big game experience.

Everytime Campbell has beat Iowa - they have had a crappy season. Lets hope the tradition continues and ISU has a good conference season.

 

[Dopey]

ISU had a freshman QB going up against Phil Parker - he made one big mistake that was the difference in the game.

Both teams have top 5 defenses in the country - someone was going to lose - ISU with freshman signal caller versus having a Senior with lots of big game experience.

Everytime Campbell has beat Iowa - they have had a crappy season. Lets hope the tradition continues and ISU has a good conference season.

Lol. Every time.

 

[simply1]

You can be frustrated without being an ass to someone who is actively trying to make all our programs better. Blum has contributed a hell of a lot more time and effort to making our AD better than most of us on this website combined.

I appreciate his work, and he gets paid to do it.

 

[isutrevman]

Wasn't that the excuse last year?

Maybe our coaches either don't scheme for success or didn't address this with usage of the transfer portal?

You can be an arrogant and stubborn coach if you are winning.

ISU isn't winning.

It's not as simple as just going out and grabbing more offensive talent. There aren't dozens of high end P5 receivers and running backs just waiting in the transfer portal for Iowa State to grab. We're competing with 50-60 other schools for those guys.

We did get Higgins, who looks like our best WR. We also added Brahmer late, who appears to be another weapon.

I think the biggest issue is our running game isn't very good, and Becht isn't good enough that they don't trust him with anything other than simple, game management type of throws.

 

[NickTheGreat]

There were a lot of Hawks in the NW corner of the stadium, lower level. But I really didn't hear or see anything very bad at all. Some with the tailgating lots. It was really the perfect day except the game itself.