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Cyballzz

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Try again kettle. Never once I've ever ever told someone to leave, support another team or anything. Had many a disagreement? Sure. Not agreed on stuff. Absolutely. Wondered how and why they thought that ? Sure, of course.

But ever tell someone they should leave or support a different team? Nope. But hey, nice try.

Notice you left out the arrogant part…
 

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Not really? Since the arrogant part was literally used in "arrogant in thinking you can tell someone how to be a fan" which I've never done.

Felt like I have some knowledge regarding football and that I have strong opinions? Yep. Guilty as charged. All accounts there. Won't apologize for that.

I've no issue with anyone else who has strong opinions, be they in agreement or in disagreement. More the merrier.

But I will and always will draw the line at pretending my way is the only way to support Iowa State or be an Iowa State. I might cuss someone out, or get cussed out, and that's fine. It takes many birds of a feather in life.

But I'm not going to have someone else question a fan's loyalty to a school or organization because I disagree with them. Or have on the flip side I don't do that so in that sense, yeah, I left our arrogant because its arrogant to think anyone here has that right.

We all have that right here to disagree, sometimes strongly, passionately and loudly - no problems. But telling someone to hit the road because you don't like the fact that someone's critical of a coach or a game plan? Yeah. That's not cool with me and never will be.
 

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I support giving CMC a chance to get things back on track but Stormin being this vocal has me rethinking. They were on this site arguing to keep Danny Mac, McDermott, Rhoads and Prohm. CMC getting their support is the death nail.

This is what I’ve been saying, we’ve entered the ISU Coach death spiral. Once it’s going it doesn’t stop. Now the media and a bunch of people have been spending this week saying OSU is awful and they got beat at home by a G5, this is a get right game for us. The crash from that if we lose is going to be HARD. Honestly this game is probably the pivotal game in the season. We win, we MIGHT win again. We lose? We’re done, good chance we don’t win again.
 
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This is what I’ve been saying, we’ve entered the ISU Coach death spiral. Once it’s going it doesn’t stop. Now the media and a bunch of people have been spending this week saying OSU is awful and they got beat at home by a G5, this is a get right game for us. The crash from that if we lose is going to be HARD. Honestly this game is probably the pivotal game in the season. We win, we MIGHT win again. We lose? We’re done, good chance we don’t win again.
Regardless of Okey State being down this game is very important for the future of Campbell. He's close to losing the fans.
 

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I support giving CMC a chance to get things back on track but Stormin being this vocal has me rethinking. They were on this site arguing to keep Danny Mac, McDermott, Rhoads and Prohm. CMC getting their support is the death nail.
You might be right. I'm treading the path between extremes at the moment. Neither the sunshine pumping blind faith Stormins of the world nor the jerking off in their Star Wars pajamas Gunners of the world are likely to be correct.

And the frog hates CMC so much it is laughable. I wonder if CMC in the past killed his dog, despoiled his girlfriend, despoiled his dog, or killed his girlfriend, or maybe all of the above?
 

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Regardless of Okey State being down this game is very important for the future of Campbell. He's close to losing the fans.
Close?

Has ISU football been fun to watch in 2021, 2022, and 2023?

2021 was a huge disappointment considering the amazing NFL talent ISU had.

2022? CampbellBall was in full effect. Predictable and boring.

2023? CampbellBall 2, with even more predictability and worse execution.

Do the players seem to be having fun?

Are you impressed with the gameplans?

Is there any adaptation? Ever?

Campbell showed us what he thinks of the fans when the phrase "hot seat" was mentioned to him publicly.
 
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I hope people enjoy timeouts...................just like football genius Coach Matt Campbell, who takes them, just to end up doing what he was going to do anyhow.
 

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But it doesn't have to be, that's my issue. CMC is so freaking stubborn that becomes the death nail.

If we would play to what strengths we have - a QB who gets rid of the ball quick, a decent stable of backs , a effecient quick game with occasional deep shot -

we'd be better on offense. Instead we continually try to ram it straight ahead over and over and over again.

Yes, the OL is not great. But we do have some strengths on offense. Bitter is probably not an NFL receiver, but he's reliable. Our TE room is decent. Higgins / Noel are decent Big 12 receivers. All world? Nope. But good enough.

But we don't play to them. Instead we continually play to our weakness which is our OL's inability to generate push.

And that stubbornness is costing us games. Which is frustrating to watch. And I don't get it. CMC is an incredibly smart man surrounded by other very smart men but this stubborness is killing our momentum as a program and that hurts.

Its not about me, yeah, I'm mad, but who gives a crap? no one but me. We have a window, and had a bigger window to do things at Iowa State that have never been done and no one ever thought we'd do. And the more he's stubborn and refuses to change - the more that window closes, IMO. And that's what hurts. I've seen enough ugly losses in 30+ years as an Iowa State fan and seen enough non bowl game seasons. I can deal with losses just fine.


Its the fact we're losing in part because our head coach refuses to change and refuses to acknowledge what's happening. That's the frustating part and why I'm mad.
I have no issues with this frustration or criticism. I feel the same way. But I also feel our HC and his staff know what they are doing. I don't think it's stubbornness as much as offenses are complex and making drastic changes are hard and sometimes worse than the status quo. A lot of our plays are small corrections. How many times did the inexperienced receivers playing instead of the starter Saturday that ran a route 1 yard short of the line to gain? Do you think the staff ran a play that is 12 yards on a 13 yard need? Or did the receiver not run it correctly? Or because of lack of game experience didn't push the DB further down field before coming back to the ball? The OL looks to be too aggressive and missing the block they were assigned. That could be the result of the mentality of violence that Ryan brought. This is a staff that is still getting used to a lot of moving pieces, gambling, virus, combined with new staff.

It sucks, nobody is more frustrated with these early results than the players and coaches. I just choose to trust them as they proved they can coach/develop. But sometimes they make mistakes or have outside circumstances. Calling for the coaches head does nothing for recruiting or player confidence. That's why I choose not to get crazy about it, recruiting is already an uphill climb with our lack of NIL/donors. And CMC would cost $20M to buyout. Nothing is changing unless he chooses to leave. Personally I don't want him going anywhere.
 
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I have no issues with this frustration or criticism. I feel the same way. But I also feel our HC and his staff know what they are doing. I don't think it's stubbornness as much as offenses are complex and making drastic changes are hard and sometimes worse than the status quo. A lot of our plays are small corrections. How many times did the inexperienced receivers playing instead of the starter Saturday that ran a route 1 yard short of the line to gain? Do you think the staff ran a play that is 12 yards on a 13 yard need? Or did the receiver not run it correctly? Or because of lack of game experience didn't push the DB further down field before coming back to the ball? The OL looks to be too aggressive and missing the block they were assigned. That could be the result of the mentality of violence that Ryan brought. This is a staff that is still getting used to a lot of moving pieces, gambling, virus, combined with new staff.

It sucks, nobody is more frustrated with these early results than the players and coaches. I just choose to trust them as they proved they can coach/develop. But sometimes they make mistakes or have outside circumstances. Calling for the coaches head does nothing for recruiting or player confidence. That's why I choose not to get crazy about it, recruiting is already an uphill climb with our lack of NIL/donors. And CMC would cost $20M to buyout. Nothing is changing unless he chooses to leave. Personally I don't want him going anywhere.
What you mention could be true but they aren't calling plays to make their lives any easier.
 

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How do you know that?
How much play action to we run? Do we run traps to get aggressive upfield dline play to catch them over committing? Are we trying different things with line splits to make gap assignments easier? When was the last time we called a true draw? If you're going to run the ball, the other team knows it. There are plenty of ways to scheme and make it effective regardless of that knowledge. We do not do it.
 

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I have no issues with this frustration or criticism. I feel the same way. But I also feel our HC and his staff know what they are doing. I don't think it's stubbornness as much as offenses are complex and making drastic changes are hard and sometimes worse than the status quo. A lot of our plays are small corrections. How many times did the inexperienced receivers playing instead of the starter Saturday that ran a route 1 yard short of the line to gain? Do you think the staff ran a play that is 12 yards on a 13 yard need? Or did the receiver not run it correctly? Or because of lack of game experience didn't push the DB further down field before coming back to the ball? The OL looks to be too aggressive and missing the block they were assigned. That could be the result of the mentality of violence that Ryan brought. This is a staff that is still getting used to a lot of moving pieces, gambling, virus, combined with new staff.

It sucks, nobody is more frustrated with these early results than the players and coaches. I just choose to trust them as they proved they can coach/develop. But sometimes they make mistakes or have outside circumstances. Calling for the coaches head does nothing for recruiting or player confidence. That's why I choose not to get crazy about it, recruiting is already an uphill climb with our lack of NIL/donors. And CMC would cost $20M to buyout. Nothing is changing unless he chooses to leave. Personally I don't want him going anywhere.
X was arguably the best receiver in school history and we saw this from him all year last year, he was a super senior. Stanley did this several times Saturday, he's a redshirt senior who has seen action in almost 30 games. This isn't about experience, it's either bad scheme or bad coaching.
 

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How much play action to we run? Do we run traps to get aggressive upfield dline play to catch them over committing? Are we trying different things with line splits to make gap assignments easier? When was the last time we called a true draw? If you're going to run the ball, the other team knows it. There are plenty of ways to scheme and make it effective regardless of that knowledge. We do not do it.
I get it, but why in the world has Matt been the first name on coaching lists for the last 10 years, minus this year? He apparently has other people fooled into thinking he knows what he's doing.
 

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I have no issues with this frustration or criticism. I feel the same way. But I also feel our HC and his staff know what they are doing. I don't think it's stubbornness as much as offenses are complex and making drastic changes are hard and sometimes worse than the status quo. A lot of our plays are small corrections. How many times did the inexperienced receivers playing instead of the starter Saturday that ran a route 1 yard short of the line to gain? Do you think the staff ran a play that is 12 yards on a 13 yard need? Or did the receiver not run it correctly? Or because of lack of game experience didn't push the DB further down field before coming back to the ball? The OL looks to be too aggressive and missing the block they were assigned. That could be the result of the mentality of violence that Ryan brought. This is a staff that is still getting used to a lot of moving pieces, gambling, virus, combined with new staff.

It sucks, nobody is more frustrated with these early results than the players and coaches. I just choose to trust them as they proved they can coach/develop. But sometimes they make mistakes or have outside circumstances. Calling for the coaches head does nothing for recruiting or player confidence. That's why I choose not to get crazy about it, recruiting is already an uphill climb with our lack of NIL/donors. And CMC would cost $20M to buyout. Nothing is changing unless he chooses to leave. Personally I don't want him going anywhere.
On one hand, the stubbornness it seems that CMC has to adapt offensively is mind numbing, but on the other hand, he has raised the bar so far that we now have the right to ***** about how bad we are, which we really havent had in the past, other than to just be bitter. He is starting to lose the fans a bit I believe, but again, most of us lived through the worst years of Cyclone Football, which we arent close to now. FWIW, we could be undefeated and most of those fans would still find something to ***** about lol
 

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I hope people enjoy timeouts...................just like football genius Coach Matt Campbell, who takes them, just to end up doing what he was going to do anyhow.
He was a little bit Scott Drewish with the timeouts as of late. But hey, Scott got better at that over the years!
 
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I get it, but why in the world has Matt been the first name on coaching lists for the last 10 years, minus this year? He apparently has other people fooled into thinking he knows what he's doing.
He isn't adjusting to personnel deficiencies. He's trying to square peg into a round hole which is the opposite of his mantra: Players, formations and plays. Matt hasn't been a hot commodity since we screwed the pooch twice against Iowa, especially when we had Game day. We are being made fun of A LOT by national pundits. Matt's record in one score games is one of the worst stats I've seen in a long time because it's very telling.
 

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He isn't adjusting to personnel deficiencies. He's trying to square peg into a round hole which is the opposite of his mantra: Players, formations and plays. Matt hasn't been a hot commodity since we screwed the pooch twice against Iowa, especially when we had Game day. We are being made fun of A LOT by national pundits. Matt's record in one score games is one of the worst stats I've seen in a long time because it's very telling.
Yep, ever since last year he's lost a TON of his shine to national pundits.
Most think he caught lightning in a bottle with Purdy and now we're back to reality.
 
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