Why are Farmers never happy?

[Agclone91]

I think it was a Fendt

Fendt used to be a primarily European brand but, but Agco has been really pushing them hard into the American market the past few years. See their tractors around fairly often these days.

Same goes with Claas. They eliminated the Cat Lexion brand of combines and replaced them with Claas branding.

 

[pourcyne]

Maybe we could go on strike, like other unhappy people.

Imagine if we put a stop to the exploitation, if our fields didn't get worked or our cows milked or our livestock fed and cared for on a 24/7 basis until the rest of the world coughed up what it really costs to produce their food.

Oh, yeah. Feeling happier already.

 

[intrepid27]

Farmers do tend to be vocal and I'm not sure if most even realize that stereotype is out there. There are a lot of things that effect their bottom line that they have little or no control of. Most are changing but in many cases they are not very good businessmen. They were born into their occupation, and grew up with little or no training in terms of business and operational management. IMO.

 

[Stormin]

It can be argued that the PPP payments and tariff war subsidies have fueled much of the farmland inflation.

 

[NetflixAndClone]

LOL This will be the typical ***** about agriculture thread. But if it's so easy go ahead and give it a try.

I have played stardew valley, it doesn't seem too hard.

 

[Mr.G.Spot]

It can be argued that the PPP payments and tariff war subsidies have fueled much of the farmland inflation.

Argued??? Who doesn't think that? It's easy math. Take away the tariff payments and PPP payments to the ag industry and land values would be 5-8% lower......rough math.

Reference interest rate increases and the immediate value decrease to multi-family and commercial real estate. More cash (govt payments) left over = higher values. Less cash (higher interest rates) = less value.

Third grade math. Nothing complicated.

 

[pourcyne]

Farmers do tend to be vocal and I'm not sure if most even realize that stereotype is out there.

Very astoot of youse to realize that our Stereo Type is mostly Pioneer.



In other words, why do you seem to have the mistaken impression that "most farmers" are obtuse yokels? We're not.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

The PPP program was out right theft and graft for many people and organizations that in no way were harmed by the crisis. Looking over a three-county list, lots of farms, churches and businesses that were affected very little by Covid, but they still cashed in, while people that lost their jobs because their business or place of employment were shut down got little to nothing.

Many of these same people are the one complaining about SNAP and other government programs for the poor, while they are on the dole themselves.

 

[dafarmer]

I had an uncle who stated that unions high wages made it easier for people to spend money on goods and services that would bring prosperity to everyone. Not like the current philosophy that let me get mine and the #### with the rest of you. That is what is happening in ag right now.

 

[BCClone]

Farmers do tend to be vocal and I'm not sure if most even realize that stereotype is out there. There are a lot of things that effect their bottom line that they have little or no control of. Most are changing but in many cases they are not very good businessmen. They were born into their occupation, and grew up with little or no training in terms of business and operational management. IMO.

This may have been true 50 years ago. Take the farmers I know that are 50 and younger, around 80% have post HS training and 50% have bachelor degrees.

 

[swiacy]

The only way to understand a job/profession is to be a participant where your income is based on your performance and decisions. I am a farmer and "happy". As are my farmer friends. I know not what the factory worker, corporate type, banker etc. etc. goes thru on a daily basis and the stresses involved in their lives. I ***** and complain on occasion as do they. I will go out on a limb and say that Matt Campbell is not happy today.

 

[Beernuts]

This may have been true 50 years ago. Take the farmers I know that are 50 and younger, around 80% have post HS training and 50% have bachelor degrees.

Agree. I work with a variety of farmers daily, and there is definitely a change occurring within the farming community. The up and coming farmers are educated, motivated and very hard working. They spend very little time in the fields themselves, but are aggressively partnering with landowners to gain market share (acres). Some are employing full time public relation personal that focus on marketing materials and researching topics that may help them gain the next farm. It's all about controlling acres and with it opportunities for them. Most of these farmers are also very fit and image conscience.

 

[cycloneML]

Many of these same people are the one complaining about SNAP and other government programs for the poor, while they are on the dole themselves.

^This. How dare minority mothers get relief.

 

[DrClone]

The PPP program was out right theft and graft for many people and organizations that in no way were harmed by the crisis. Looking over a three-county list, lots of farms, churches and businesses that were affected very little by Covid, but they still cashed in, while people that lost their jobs because their business or place of employment were shut down got little to nothing.

Many of these same people are the one complaining about SNAP and other government programs for the poor, while they are on the dole themselves.

Like many government programs

 

[Stormin]

This may have been true 50 years ago. Take the farmers I know that are 50 and younger, around 80% have post HS training and 50% have bachelor degrees.

But still BORN into their occupation. Born into a farming family is almost mandatory.

 

[Stormin]

Like many government programs

No. This program was subject to more corruption than others. Part of the problem was the immediate need for help for many and that meant time needed for verification of need before awarding money would have meant too much delay.

 

[Cyrealist]

people that lost their jobs because their business or place of employment were shut down got little to nothing.

That's not true. There were enhanced unemployment benefits, student loan forbearance, and expanded child tax credits in addition to stimulus payments.

 

[BCClone]

When it came to Covid money, if you didn’t get any, you had to be trying really hard to not get any.

 

[Stormin]

When it came to Covid money, if you didn’t get any, you had to be trying really hard to not get any.

The amounts differed immensely. Working people got very little. Businesses, corporations, even churches, got millions. Churches should never have been included. They are tax exempt. Therefore should have been excluded.

 

[keepngoal]

Maybe we could go on strike, like other unhappy people.

Imagine if we put a stop to the exploitation, if our fields didn't get worked or our cows milked or our livestock fed and cared for on a 24/7 basis until the rest of the world coughed up what it really costs to produce their food.

Oh, yeah. Feeling happier already.

If you're willing to remove the subsidies and the market control by the gov't ... Yes please strike.