Has anyone purchased a new vehicle lately, the prices are off the wall.

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I am sure people were saying the same thing a hundred years ago when the main way of transportation was the horse.

There are going to be some applications that are going to struggle with the changeover if they do at all, like farm equipment, semi for long distance hailing and others. But the average day to day driving, those will be for the most part electric and it's going to happen soon than many want to believe.
Farm and commercial/industrial equipment aside, I get your point on 10-20 years, but realistically it will be 15-20 years from a future date when new private passenger cars/trucks (gas/ICE powered) are no longer sold.

In other words, it’s not going to happen in 10-20 years. I would say 10-20 years from 10-20 years from now.

Regarding the farm/commercial/industrial stuff, unless we have a major breakthrough in battery tech, that stuff is going to remain diesel powered for the foreseeable future. The sheer amount of energy required to operate is not close to feasible with current battery tech.
 

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Farm and commercial/industrial equipment aside, I get your point on 10-20 years, but realistically it will be 15-20 years from a future date when new private passenger cars/trucks (gas/ICE powered) are no longer sold.

In other words, it’s not going to happen in 10-20 years. I would say 10-20 years from 10-20 years from now.

Regarding the farm/commercial/industrial stuff, unless we have a major breakthrough in battery tech, that stuff is going to remain diesel powered for the foreseeable future. The sheer amount of energy required to operate is not close to feasible with current battery tech.
Without a doubt it's going to be a slow turnover from gas to electric, but it's occurring now. As the car companies start to sell more and more electric vehicles, they will slowly move away from gas powered vehicles. They will still produce a few, but it will be like now, with the majority being electric and a few gas, the opposite of today.
 

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Without a doubt it's going to be a slow turnover from gas to electric, but it's occurring now. As the car companies start to sell more and more electric vehicles, they will slowly move away from gas powered vehicles. They will still produce a few, but it will be like now, with the majority being electric and a few gas, the opposite of today.
Agree with the possibility of ’majority’, as apposed to ‘phase out’.
 

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Without a doubt it's going to be a slow turnover from gas to electric, but it's occurring now. As the car companies start to sell more and more electric vehicles, they will slowly move away from gas powered vehicles. They will still produce a few, but it will be like now, with the majority being electric and a few gas, the opposite of today.
As a whole, there will never be more 100% electric vehicles than gas. Ever. Sure, current areas of the country have it now, but again, as a whole, electric will never be the majority. Politics aside, it will never work. GM has turned Buick into an electric only franchise starting in 2024, and they have more dealers selling the franchise back to the manufacturer than setting up the infrastructure to be able to sell/fix them. By this time next year, the Buick line may just be gone. Try telling GM that electric is still a good idea, after they will have lost millions on trying to make Buick 100% electric
 

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As a whole, there will never be more 100% electric vehicles than gas. Ever. Sure, current areas of the country have it now, but again, as a whole, electric will never be the majority. Politics aside, it will never work. GM has turned Buick into an electric only franchise starting in 2024, and they have more dealers selling the franchise back to the manufacturer than setting up the infrastructure to be able to sell/fix them. By this time next year, the Buick line may just be gone. Try telling GM that electric is still a good idea, after they will have lost millions on trying to make Buick 100% electric
buick was always going to die. 80 year olds can only buy so many cars
 

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As a whole, there will never be more 100% electric vehicles than gas. Ever. Sure, current areas of the country have it now, but again, as a whole, electric will never be the majority. Politics aside, it will never work. GM has turned Buick into an electric only franchise starting in 2024, and they have more dealers selling the franchise back to the manufacturer than setting up the infrastructure to be able to sell/fix them. By this time next year, the Buick line may just be gone. Try telling GM that electric is still a good idea, after they will have lost millions on trying to make Buick 100% electric
Only a third of the dealers took the buyback and refused to switch over, roughly 575 dealers, meaning 2/3rd are switching over. So it was not half or even close to it. Their plans are go make the Buick line fully electric by 2030.

 
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Without a doubt it's going to be a slow turnover from gas to electric, but it's occurring now. As the car companies start to sell more and more electric vehicles, they will slowly move away from gas powered vehicles. They will still produce a few, but it will be like now, with the majority being electric and a few gas, the opposite of today.

I think within 10 years you’ll see almost no full gas vehicles sold. PHEV’s will be the first step. Passenger cars will then move to electric with trucks staying hybrid for some time longer, if not forever.
 

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I think within 10 years you’ll see almost no full gas vehicles sold. PHEV’s will be the first step. Passenger cars will then move to electric with trucks staying hybrid for some time longer, if not forever.
I've posted I'm not against EVs but there still needs be a lot more capable mileage for those of us that tow toys via truck/suv. I know I'm in the 10% though too.
 

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I've posted I'm not against EVs but there still needs be a lot more capable mileage for those of us that tow toys via truck/suv. I know I'm in the 10% though too.

And that’s why I thought trucks would stay PHEV for some time. Use the electric motors for getting up to speed and let the gas engine take over at speed.
 
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I've posted I'm not against EVs but there still needs be a lot more capable mileage for those of us that tow toys via truck/suv. I know I'm in the 10% though too.
Everytime you hitch a trailer up to the new lightning, whether you have moved even an inch or not, you lose 10-15% range
 

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Everytime you hitch a trailer up to the new lightning, whether you have moved even an inch or not, you lose 10-15% range
I just basically need to be able to go maybe 250ish miles towing. More would be great obviously.
 

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I just basically need to be able to go maybe 250ish miles towing. More would be great obviously.
Electric definitely has the torque for towing, but so far no one can figure out the range issue. Buy a diesel instead, plenty of "range" and burns fairly clean as well!
 

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Electric definitely has the torque for towing, but so far no one can figure out the range issue. Buy a diesel instead, plenty of "range" and burns fairly clean as well!
I'm sure it'll get there in due time.

Those that know, because I don't, are the Tesla semi cabs just full of an insane amount of batteries to accomplish this for semi trailers?
 

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I'm sure it'll get there in due time.

Those that know, because I don't, are the Tesla semi cabs just full of an insane amount of batteries to accomplish this for semi trailers?
There is some fascinating technology that goes into those. They have 9 batteries, for a 500 mile range. Also accompanied with 3 independent motors. Thousand Watt powertrain is what they call it. They also have megawatt charging capabilities. No idea how they perform being hitched to thousands of pounds of cargo however
 
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