Gonzaga to join the Big 12?

[cyfan92]

What a competitive advantage Gonzaga would have in NIL versus the other Big 12 schools.. They don't have to allocate a single dollar to football, only men's basketball...

That alone makes this a NO for me.

 

[Cyforce]

You can play an 18 team tournament over 6 days and 9 sessions. It's messy but I'd imagine that's the plan for those leagues. The ACC is going to be really awkward at 17 because playing a single game on that first day is going to have approximately 11 people in the stands.

16 v 17
15 v 18

9 v 16/17
12 v 13
10 v 15/18
11 v 14

8 v 9/16/17
5 v 12/13
7 v 10/15/18
6 v 11/14

1 v 8/9/16/17
4 v 5/12/13
2 v 7/10/15/18
3 v 6/11/14

Semifinal 1
Semifinal 2

Championship

Just play as many games off site as needed on Monday to get to 16.

 

[Cyforce]

What a competitive advantage Gonzaga would have in NIL versus the other Big 12 schools.. They don't have to allocate a single dollar to football, only men's basketball...

That alone makes this a NO for me.

So you think all Gonzaga fans don't follow football? They're competing with football for NIL. It's just not Zag FB.

Years ago I went to Omaha for a BB game. The guy at the parking gate said, "we kicked your ass in FB". Being the smart-ass i am I replied, " I didn't know Creighton had a FB team".

 

[1UNI2ISU]

What a competitive advantage Gonzaga would have in NIL versus the other Big 12 schools.. They don't have to allocate a single dollar to football, only men's basketball...

That alone makes this a NO for me.

Gonzaga has their own version of Jayskers. They've got tons of people that are UW football fans and Gonzaga basketball fans. I think that worry is way overblown.

 

[Cyrealist]

Saw an interview with Brett Yormark on TV the other night. He's convinced basketball is undervalued right now and is a key to appealing to millennials and beyond and possibly marketing internationally. He thinks there is the potential to split football TV rights from other sports in the future.

 

[cyfan92]

Gonzaga has their own version of Jayskers. They've got tons of people that are UW football fans and Gonzaga basketball fans. I think that worry is way overblown.

I pushback that Omaha is under and hour to Lincoln while Spokane to Seattle is 7+ hours.. Maybe I'm missing the mega donor angle here, but that would be like an ISU basketball fan cheering for the Indianapolis Colts (same drive time from DSM to Indy).

Am I way off here?

 

[jsb]

I pushback that Omaha is under and hour to Lincoln while Spokane to Seattle is 7+ hours.. Maybe I'm missing the mega donor angle here, but that would be like an ISU basketball fan cheering for the Indianapolis Colts (same drive time from DSM to Indy).

Am I way off here?

That's Pollard's concern as well. I think it's fair. And I also think that if Gonzaga gets into a Big Boy conference, their fans might stop supporting Washington football (if that's even a thing) and go all in on basketball.

 

[Clonehomer]

Kemper Arena is saying "let me in coach!"

That was renovated to be a youth sports complex.

 

[Clonehomer]

Saw an interview with Brett Yormark on TV the other night. He's convinced basketball is undervalued right now and is a key to appealing to millennials and beyond and possibly marketing internationally. He thinks there is the potential to split football TV rights from other sports in the future.

The key word there is the future. And when football splits off, do these conferences even still exist? How much less will we take to bring these teams on for hope of some future increase?

 

[1UNI2ISU]

I pushback that Omaha is under and hour to Lincoln while Spokane to Seattle is 7+ hours.. Maybe I'm missing the mega donor angle here, but that would be like an ISU basketball fan cheering for the Indianapolis Colts (same drive time from DSM to Indy).

Am I way off here?

It's a fair concern that the money might funnel more to Gonzaga if they get the call but it's not like they aren't already getting elite HS recruits and transfers.

 

[clones2005]

What a competitive advantage Gonzaga would have in NIL versus the other Big 12 schools.. They don't have to allocate a single dollar to football, only men's basketball...

That alone makes this a NO for me.

Not much different than KU if we're being honest.

 

[NetflixAndClone]

the last thing i want is another school that is going to complain about the basketball tournaments being in KC and demand it to be moved somewhere like Vegas.

 

[HFCS]

Not much different than KU if we're being honest.

I'm really curious what happens in KU/Arizona basketball games.

Will Arizona get the same ref treatment the entire rest of the Big 12 has always gotten?

I really don't care who pays players or how much they can afford to pay them vs ISU's ability to pay them. I'd gladly settle for officiating that just follows the basics of common sense, laws of physics, the time space continuum etc...

 

[HFCS]

the last thing i want is another school that is going to complain about the basketball tournaments being in KC and demand it to be moved somewhere like Vegas.

I can tell you that's Arizona already.

They don't want it in Phoenix or Denver or SLC, they want it in Vegas once in a while.

 

[aeroclone]

I pushback that Omaha is under and hour to Lincoln while Spokane to Seattle is 7+ hours.. Maybe I'm missing the mega donor angle here, but that would be like an ISU basketball fan cheering for the Indianapolis Colts (same drive time from DSM to Indy).

Am I way off here?

I work with a lot of people in Seattle, and I think I know more that are Zag fans than UW fans. That said I don't know any that split UW football and Zags hoops.

 

[HFCS]

It's a fair concern that the money might funnel more to Gonzaga if they get the call but it's not like they aren't already getting elite HS recruits and transfers.

Arizona is getting the exact same international studs Gonzaga used to get recruited by same coach who used to bring them to the Zags. They're already in the league.

Top international prospect Krivas joining Arizona

Top international basketball prospect Motiejus Krivas has committed to the Arizona Wildcats.

www.espn.com

 

[HFCS]

I work with a lot of people in Seattle, and I think I know more that are Zag fans than UW fans. That said I don't know any that split UW football and Zags hoops.

Seahawks/Gonzaga?

Makes sense with no NBA in a huge market.

 

[Clark]

For the Zags.

Gonzaga isn't some plucky underdog story full of overlooked prospects. They are an elite basketball school with elite players. It makes no difference what conference they're in, if anything moving to a better conference makes the job much easier to recruit to.

 

[Cyrealist]

The key word there is the future. And when football splits off, do these conferences even still exist? How much less will we take to bring these teams on for hope of some future increase?

The conferences could be the same just with different TV deals. Or, there is a potential for the top programs to break from the NCAA to form a new league kind of like the CFA was formed in the 1970s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_Football_Association
If there are such changes, Yormark wants to be out ahead of them. It worked on our TV deal.

 

[HFCS]

Gonzaga isn't some plucky underdog story full of overlooked prospects. They are an elite basketball school with elite players. It makes no difference what conference they're in, if anything moving to a better conference makes the job much easier to recruit to.

In terms of getting a better seed it can help to have a great record in a crap conference or even just a better record in the 3rd or 4th best vs toughest.

The Big 12 has statistically quite clearly been the best conference for about 13 years straight yet only got widely acknowledged as such in the past 2-3 years. The tournament evens it out a little if you look at wide range of performance over several years, but there's still space to get a boost or get screwed in terms of # of selections and seeding matchups.

Zags could still be elite but the days of regularly coasting to top 4 seeds will be gone. I'm also not sure what the effects of being THAT isolated compared to other programs would be. It's not football where they'd have 5 long road trips. It's a long cross country road trip pretty much every week of the season. Makes my head spin thinking about how Big Ten non-revenue sports are going to do it (or even worse Stanford/Cal playing mostly east coast games).

I've heard some experts say they think there's something legit about Zags busting in the pros because the WCC doesn't expose weaknesses like the Big 12/Big East/Big Ten would.