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ZRF said:
Do you watch the ******* games?

The Big 12 is TERRIBLE this year. We've played UNI, Ohio, Iowa, OSU, TCU, Baylor, OU, and Cinci. All but maybe OSU, who might be coming around, have less than stellar teams and many of those offenses are ATROCIOUS. Our secondary is phenomenal and that combination, of weak competition and a stellar secondary, has been good enough to give us good 'stats'.

Instead of being a jagoff actually addresss what was stated: the LBs and d front are weak and Heacock often allows teams way too much time to throw by rushing 3 guys. When we get burnt it's almost always when rushing 3, with the QB having ample time, and when we make plays its often when we bring pressure. And the one game we played a known good offense? OU destroyed us and it all started in the front 6. The LBs CONSTANTLY crashed into blockers instead of using their hands to shed and we often gave up contain. Pressure was non-existent and OU brutalized us in the middle of the field voids between the secondary and LBs. Why? Our LBs lack thr athleticism to drop back in coverage.

Is Heacock the problem? No. But I'm tired of idiotic fans like yourself dismissing legimate gripes without even assessing the validity of those concerns. Instead they cite empty stats without context.

We have an elite secondary but we also deploy a scheme that mitigates our strength (secondary) without mitigating our weakness (LBS). Our front isn't good but I'd add a man to Onyedum, Orange, Peterson etc and put money on a4-2-5 being more effective than the 3-3. Our LBs are THAT bad.

Anyone in d3nial should go back and watch tape. It's even more glaring if you go back and watch guys like Rose tackle,read, and drop into coverage then watch this group. Yikes.
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ZRF said:
Instead of being a jagoff actually addresss what was stated: the LBs and d front are weak and Heacock often allows teams way too much time to throw by rushing 3 guys. When we get burnt it's almost always when rushing 3, with the QB having ample time, and when we make plays its often when we bring pressure. And the one game we played a known good offense? OU destroyed us and it all started in the front 6. The LBs CONSTANTLY crashed into blockers instead of using their hands to shed and we often gave up contain. Pressure was non-existent and OU brutalized us in the middle of the field voids between the secondary and LBs. Why? Our LBs lack thr athleticism to drop back in coverage.
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Just addressing the pressure piece of this, I saw a stat today that definitely surprised me. Iowa State was actually third in the Big 12 in defensive pressures on passing plays (behind OU and Texas) coming in to today. At the same time, the defense is last in sacks, but pressures are still useful in rushing passes. Maybe the front 7 has gotten more pressure than it seems like they have.

Data: https://www.cfb-graphs.com/def_qb_table (type BIG12 in search box to filter)
 
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ZRF said:
Do you watch the ******* games?

The Big 12 is TERRIBLE this year. We've played UNI, Ohio, Iowa, OSU, TCU, Baylor, OU, and Cinci. All but maybe OSU, who might be coming around, have less than stellar teams and many of those offenses are ATROCIOUS. Our secondary is phenomenal and that combination, of weak competition and a stellar secondary, has been good enough to give us good 'stats'.

Instead of being a jagoff actually addresss what was stated: the LBs and d front are weak and Heacock often allows teams way too much time to throw by rushing 3 guys. When we get burnt it's almost always when rushing 3, with the QB having ample time, and when we make plays its often when we bring pressure. And the one game we played a known good offense? OU destroyed us and it all started in the front 6. The LBs CONSTANTLY crashed into blockers instead of using their hands to shed and we often gave up contain. Pressure was non-existent and OU brutalized us in the middle of the field voids between the secondary and LBs. Why? Our LBs lack thr athleticism to drop back in coverage.

Is Heacock the problem? No. But I'm tired of idiotic fans like yourself dismissing legimate gripes without even assessing the validity of those concerns. Instead they cite empty stats without context.

We have an elite secondary but we also deploy a scheme that mitigates our strength (secondary) without mitigating our weakness (LBS). Our front isn't good but I'd add a man to Onyedum, Orange, Peterson etc and put money on a4-2-5 being more effective than the 3-3. Our LBs are THAT bad.

Anyone in d3nial should go back and watch tape. It's even more glaring if you go back and watch guys like Rose tackle,read, and drop into coverage then watch this group. Yikes.
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ZRF said:
Do you watch the ******* games?

The Big 12 is TERRIBLE this year. We've played UNI, Ohio, Iowa, OSU, TCU, Baylor, OU, and Cinci. All but maybe OSU, who might be coming around, have less than stellar teams and many of those offenses are ATROCIOUS. Our secondary is phenomenal and that combination, of weak competition and a stellar secondary, has been good enough to give us good 'stats'.

Instead of being a jagoff actually addresss what was stated: the LBs and d front are weak and Heacock often allows teams way too much time to throw by rushing 3 guys. When we get burnt it's almost always when rushing 3, with the QB having ample time, and when we make plays its often when we bring pressure. And the one game we played a known good offense? OU destroyed us and it all started in the front 6. The LBs CONSTANTLY crashed into blockers instead of using their hands to shed and we often gave up contain. Pressure was non-existent and OU brutalized us in the middle of the field voids between the secondary and LBs. Why? Our LBs lack thr athleticism to drop back in coverage.

Is Heacock the problem? No. But I'm tired of idiotic fans like yourself dismissing legimate gripes without even assessing the validity of those concerns. Instead they cite empty stats without context.

We have an elite secondary but we also deploy a scheme that mitigates our strength (secondary) without mitigating our weakness (LBS). Our front isn't good but I'd add a man to Onyedum, Orange, Peterson etc and put money on a4-2-5 being more effective than the 3-3. Our LBs are THAT bad.

Anyone in d3nial should go back and watch tape. It's even more glaring if you go back and watch guys like Rose tackle,read, and drop into coverage then watch this group. Yikes.
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I don't care HOW bad the 4 teams we've beat are. A month ago, we thought we were bad. And we've beat 3 of 4 by more than one score. And the other was a solid win.

I'm thrilled for the players.
 
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ZRF said:
Do you watch the ******* games?

The Big 12 is TERRIBLE this year. We've played UNI, Ohio, Iowa, OSU, TCU, Baylor, OU, and Cinci. All but maybe OSU, who might be coming around, have less than stellar teams and many of those offenses are ATROCIOUS. Our secondary is phenomenal and that combination, of weak competition and a stellar secondary, has been good enough to give us good 'stats'.

Instead of being a jagoff actually addresss what was stated: the LBs and d front are weak and Heacock often allows teams way too much time to throw by rushing 3 guys. When we get burnt it's almost always when rushing 3, with the QB having ample time, and when we make plays its often when we bring pressure. And the one game we played a known good offense? OU destroyed us and it all started in the front 6. The LBs CONSTANTLY crashed into blockers instead of using their hands to shed and we often gave up contain. Pressure was non-existent and OU brutalized us in the middle of the field voids between the secondary and LBs. Why? Our LBs lack thr athleticism to drop back in coverage.

Is Heacock the problem? No. But I'm tired of idiotic fans like yourself dismissing legimate gripes without even assessing the validity of those concerns. Instead they cite empty stats without context.

We have an elite secondary but we also deploy a scheme that mitigates our strength (secondary) without mitigating our weakness (LBS). Our front isn't good but I'd add a man to Onyedum, Orange, Peterson etc and put money on a4-2-5 being more effective than the 3-3. Our LBs are THAT bad.

Anyone in d3nial should go back and watch tape. It's even more glaring if you go back and watch guys like Rose tackle,read, and drop into coverage then watch this group. Yikes.
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Iowa State Football Episode Eight: That's What They Call Homecoming

The Cyclones arrived to witness a mediocre Baylor in a pallor. With some effective offense, and enough defense, ISU won the initiative, and scored enough points to secure the victory.

I felt the overall gameplay was entertaining, although the QB had some moments he will want to either revisit or forget. The defense proved to be up to the task when necessary.

The online product was to be expected at this price point; presentation was adequate. The constant complaints concerning the color commentary is par for the course, and is what is to be expected. The commercials were repetitive and unconvincing.

All said, a Cyclone victory in this regard equals a quality viewing experience. Would rewatch; would recommend. Four stars
 
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That would have been a real shame had we found a way to lose that game today... we were clearly the better team all day.
 
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cyzygy11 said:
Iowa State Football Episode Eight: That's What They Call Homecoming

The Cyclones arrived to witness a mediocre Baylor in a pallor. With some effective offense, and enough defense, ISU won the initiative, and scored enough points to secure the victory.

I felt the overall gameplay was entertaining, although the QB had some moments he will want to either revisit or forget. The defense proved to be up to the task when necessary.

The online product was to be expected at this price point; presentation was adequate. The constant complaints concerning the color commentary is par for the course, and is what is to be expected. The commercials were repetitive and unconvincing.

All said, a Cyclone victory in this regard equals a quality viewing experience. Would rewatch; would recommend. Four stars
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