*** Official IOWA STATE vs Baylor Game(Day) Thread ***

ZRF

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Yes he does.

Wait for basketball season and you can see how much smarter than Otz he is too.

Smarter than Heacock? Never stated as much.

But I do challenge those who immediately dismiss to find fault with what was said. Our "stats" are good but have come (mostly) against weak teams/offenses. The LB core is terrible and a lot of our defensive issues start with their inability to fill gaps, make tackles, and or drop into coverage. We also tend to get burned more, and consistently, when we only rush 3 defenders. Suggesting we try to get more aggressive to: A) generate pressure B) Mitigate the LB weakness is hardly outlandish. Additionally suggesting that's better accomplished by using a lineman, as the LBs are terrible, is also an easily defensible position.

Ultimately our defensive success is almost solely predicated on the talent in the secondary and the improved ability to create TOs/interceptions. Amazingly we have done this with (often) very little in the way of pressure. This is a combo of that talent and the quality of our opponents. Cooper is also crazy at creating and converting those opportunities. He could have had two today, the first was a tough play while the 2nd he should have caught, a rare miss for him.

Many on here may be in denial but our defense will struggle against ANY competent QB. Lucky for us this is one of the worst QB groups the Big 12 has fielded. The one good QB we did face? He (Gabriel) torched us and exposed our lack of pass rush and inability of our backers to cover talent in space. Bean/Daniel will give us issues, KSU will give us issues, and Texas will if Ewers is able to start. We might get lucky and have him out in that game. Regardless I expect the stats, due to quality of the lines and QBs, to drop off immensely these last 4 weeks.

But hey, keep spouting the inaccurate hyperboles.
 

Cyched

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madguy30

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Smarter than Heacock? Never stated as much.

But I do challenge those who immediately dismiss to find fault with what was said. Our "stats" are good but have come (mostly) against weak teams/offenses. The LB core is terrible and a lot of our defensive issues start with their inability to fill gaps, make tackles, and or drop into coverage. We also tend to get burned more, and consistently, when we only rush 3 defenders. Suggesting we try to get more aggressive to: A) generate pressure B) Mitigate the LB weakness is hardly outlandish. Additionally suggesting that's better accomplished by using a lineman, as the LBs are terrible, is also an easily defensible position.

Ultimately our defensive success is almost solely predicated on the talent in the secondary and the improved ability to create TOs/interceptions. Amazingly we have done this with (often) very little in the way of pressure. This is a combo of that talent and the quality of our opponents. Cooper is also crazy at creating and converting those opportunities. He could have had two today, the first was a tough play while the 2nd he should have caught, a rare miss for him.

Many on here may be in denial but our defense will struggle against ANY competent QB. Lucky for us this is one of the worst QB groups the Big 12 has fielded. The one good QB we did face? He (Gabriel) torched us and exposed our lack of pass rush and inability of our backers to cover talent in space. Bean/Daniel will give us issues, KSU will give us issues, and Texas will if Ewers is able to start. We might get lucky and have him out in that game. Regardless I expect the stats, due to quality of the lines and QBs, to drop off immensely these last 4 weeks.

But hey, keep spouting the inaccurate hyperboles.

This is so good.

ISU is an average team with many average players.

They've won a few.

I'm not sure what you're expecting, but it's going to be OK.
 

madguy30

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I didn't watch much of the 2nd half but you take any win you can.

And oddly I like a sloppy win this week vs. if they came out crisp and hitting on all cylinders. Plenty of good stuff for the coaches and players to work with to synch up.
 

SEIOWA CLONE

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Huh? B10 West doesn't have anyone like OU, TX, KSU or heck even KU
True, but we have only played OU so far, I was just talking up till now, without a doubt the schedule gets tougher down the road.
Really if you compare our schedules to EIU right now, I would say they are both about equal, they play @ Penn St. and @ Wisconsin, and have beaten nobody in the conference worth a damn, the difference between the two is we still have UT, KU, KSU and BYU left, and they have NW, Neb, Rutgers and Illinois. Our best win so far is OSU, while EIU's is Wisconsin on the road.
 

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