**** daylight savings

[alarson]

Everyone says that, but everyone who has tried it has ended up changing their minds.


The juice of the time change just isn't worth the squeeze. I'm fine with the sun coming up at 4:30 in the Summer. My bedroom has blackout curtains.

The only time we "tried" it decades ago we jumped back into DST in the beginning of January so it was a super abrupt change and they made a knee jerk decision to not allow it to be experienced normally.

 

[BigJCy]

If my dogs and new puppy start waking me up at 3 now instead of 4 (when I prefer to wake up at 5), we're going to have it out

Ha, I would say the chances of that happening are pretty good.

 

[awd4cy]

Why do we need time at all? Get rid of it.

It is pretty racist when you think about it.

 

[qwerty]

I’m taking it a step further. Get rid of timezones too. No one uses a standard 8-5 workday anymore. So just have everyone with the same time and adjust your work or school hours based on your region.

So, you want one global time zone and since Europe is much older than U.S. let's say the time is based on them. That puts our sun exposure (daylight) from about midnight until 1:00 - 2:00pm. That will be fun.

 

[Hoggins]

Just do 30 minutes one way once and be done with it. This whole thing is stupid as hell

 

[VTXCyRyD]

Waking up in the dark is the worst. DST for life.

We are going to standard time. Keeping DST keeps you waking in the dark.

We need to keep it on standard time. Kids still walk to school. If we don't roll it back they end up going to school in the dark and are more at risk of getting hit by a car.

 

[tim_redd]

We are going to standard time. Keeping DST keeps you waking in the dark.

We need to keep it on standard time. Kids still walk to school. If we don't roll it back they end up going to school in the dark and are more at risk of getting hit by a car.

leave the time zones alone and maybe let the schools adjust schedules as they see fit. My kid already goes to the bus stop in the dark.

 

[Hoggins]

We are going to standard time. Keeping DST keeps you waking in the dark.

We need to keep it on standard time. Kids still walk to school. If we don't roll it back they end up going to school in the dark and are more at risk of getting hit by a car.

As someone with two kids, **** that. Walking in the dark and not getting hit by a car ain’t that hard

 

[KnappShack]

As someone with two kids, **** that. Walking in the dark and not getting hit by a car ain’t that hard

But...but....but....think of the CHILDREN

 

[aeroclone]

But...but....but....think of the CHILDREN

 

[Clonefan32]

I'm in the pre-depression mode of seasonal depression.

 

[ISUKyro]

I'm in the pre-depression mode of seasonal depression.

Yup, getting depressed thinking about how depressed I'm about to be.

Winter is stupid. Taking away an hour of light before I even get off work = stupider

 

[2speedy1]

Some seem to not realize that the actual daylight hours are less in the winter than in the summer.

It is still going to be dark by 5ish regardless of time change or not.

But keeping DST in the winter would mean it would not get light until 9ish during the winters shortest day.

And still other people seem to not understand that the further north from the equator this gets worse. With the further north you are the shorter daylight Hours you have in the winter.

 

[awd4cy]

Europe still does daylight savings. Wonder if they complain as much?

 

[WooBadger18]

Some seem to not realize that the actual daylight hours are less in the winter than in the summer.

It is still going to be dark by 5ish regardless of time change or not.

But keeping DST in the winter would mean it would not get light until 9ish during the winters shortest day.

And still other people seem to not understand that the further north from the equator this gets worse. With the further north you are the shorter daylight Hours you have in the winter.

What? There’s less daylight in the winter? I had no idea /s

It’s not that people don’t understand that. It’s just that we would prefer to have that extra hour of light in the afternoon instead of the morning

 

[2speedy1]

Some seem to not realize that the actual daylight hours are less in the winter than in the summer.

It is still going to be dark by 5ish regardless of time change or not.

But keeping DST in the winter would mean it would not get light until 9ish during the winters shortest day.

And still other people seem to not understand that the further north from the equator this gets worse. With the further north you are the shorter daylight Hours you have in the winter.

@alarson Just curious what you disagree with? That that is the way daylight works, or that people dont understand?

 

[alarson]

@alarson Just curious what you disagree with? That that is the way daylight works, or that people dont understand?

Not every day is the shortest day of the year. There are plenty of parts of winter where that extra hour being in the evening would make a huge difference.

And your logic works the same way the other direction. Most people would rather have that light in the evening.

 

[isuno1fan]

Extra hour of light should be in the morning. Sunrise around 9am is a dealbreaker.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

I don't really care what time frame they stick with - standard or daylight. I just want them to quit pretending it's "saving time".

 

[2speedy1]

for Ames, with the time change as is. If you go to the Iowa/MN border it shortens the daylight by about 10 less minutes a day. And notice most days with DST all year sunset would still be about 5:45, so most people that get home after 5 will not notice much of a difference. But there are a lot of people that still work outdoors etc, and they work 8-5, so most want to work in those daylight hours. Not to mention, most want kids to go to school and come home BOTH in daylight, save for a few that leave for school early.

If you keep DST sunrise will be after 8 am for most of the winter, pretty much the entire time of the current standard time.

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Day	Twilight start	Sunrise	Sunset	Twilight end	Day length	Solar noon	Nautical twilight	Astronomical twilight
Fri, Dec 1	6:51:55 am	7:21:23 am	4:45:36 pm	5:15:04 pm	09:24:13	12:03:29 pm	6:17 am	5:49 pm	5:43 am	6:23 pm
Sat, Dec 2	6:52:54 am	7:22:26 am	4:45:19 pm	5:14:51 pm	09:22:53	12:03:52 pm	6:18 am	5:49 pm	5:44 am	6:23 pm
Sun, Dec 3	6:53:52 am	7:23:27 am	4:45:04 pm	5:14:39 pm	09:21:37	12:04:16 pm	6:19 am	5:49 pm	5:45 am	6:23 pm
Mon, Dec 4	6:54:49 am	7:24:27 am	4:44:52 pm	5:14:30 pm	09:20:25	12:04:40 pm	6:19 am	5:49 pm	5:46 am	6:23 pm
Tue, Dec 5	6:55:45 am	7:25:26 am	4:44:43 pm	5:14:24 pm	09:19:17	12:05:04 pm	6:20 am	5:49 pm	5:47 am	6:23 pm
Wed, Dec 6	6:56:40 am	7:26:23 am	4:44:35 pm	5:14:19 pm	09:18:12	12:05:29 pm	6:21 am	5:49 pm	5:47 am	6:23 pm
Thu, Dec 7	6:57:33 am	7:27:19 am	4:44:31 pm	5:14:17 pm	09:17:12	12:05:55 pm	6:22 am	5:49 pm	5:48 am	6:23 pm
Fri, Dec 8	6:58:26 am	7:28:14 am	4:44:28 pm	5:14:17 pm	09:16:14	12:06:21 pm	6:23 am	5:49 pm	5:49 am	6:23 pm
Sat, Dec 9	6:59:17 am	7:29:08 am	4:44:28 pm	5:14:19 pm	09:15:20	12:06:48 pm	6:24 am	5:49 pm	5:50 am	6:23 pm
Sun, Dec 10	7:00:06 am	7:29:59 am	4:44:30 pm	5:14:23 pm	09:14:31	12:07:15 pm	6:25 am	5:49 pm	5:51 am	6:23 pm
Mon, Dec 11	7:00:54 am	7:30:49 am	4:44:35 pm	5:14:30 pm	09:13:46	12:07:42 pm	6:25 am	5:49 pm	5:51 am	6:23 pm
Tue, Dec 12	7:01:41 am	7:31:38 am	4:44:42 pm	5:14:39 pm	09:13:04	12:08:10 pm	6:26 am	5:49 pm	5:52 am	6:23 pm
Wed, Dec 13	7:02:26 am	7:32:25 am	4:44:52 pm	5:14:50 pm	09:12:27	12:08:38 pm	6:27 am	5:50 pm	5:53 am	6:23 pm
Thu, Dec 14	7:03:10 am	7:33:10 am	4:45:04 pm	5:15:03 pm	09:11:54	12:09:07 pm	6:27 am	5:50 pm	5:54 am	6:24 pm
Fri, Dec 15	7:03:52 am	7:33:53 am	4:45:18 pm	5:15:19 pm	09:11:25	12:09:36 pm	6:28 am	5:50 pm	5:54 am	6:24 pm
Sat, Dec 16	7:04:32 am	7:34:35 am	4:45:34 pm	5:15:37 pm	09:10:59	12:10:05 pm	6:29 am	5:50 pm	5:55 am	6:24 pm
Sun, Dec 17	7:05:11 am	7:35:14 am	4:45:53 pm	5:15:56 pm	09:10:39	12:10:34 pm	6:29 am	5:51 pm	5:55 am	6:25 pm
Mon, Dec 18	7:05:48 am	7:35:52 am	4:46:14 pm	5:16:18 pm	09:10:22	12:11:03 pm	6:30 am	5:51 pm	5:56 am	6:25 pm
Tue, Dec 19	7:06:23 am	7:36:28 am	4:46:38 pm	5:16:42 pm	09:10:10	12:11:33 pm	6:31 am	5:51 pm	5:57 am	6:26 pm
Wed, Dec 20	7:06:57 am	7:37:02 am	4:47:03 pm	5:17:08 pm	09:10:01	12:12:03 pm	6:31 am	5:52 pm	5:57 am	6:26 pm

Tue, Jun 20	5:04:13 am	5:37:02 am	8:55:07 pm	9:27:56 pm	15:18:05	1:16:04 pm	4:19 am	10:12 pm	3:25 am	11:06 pm