Here comes the doomsday thread, sorry
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Until they start going 4-8, because 50% of the teams have to lose.
They are taking the, "we don't care that you don't like it - you'll still watch" approach and for people like me, that is 100% inaccurate. If Iowa State is not directly competing or eligible to compete in the post season with a different "division" then that division effectively doesn't exist to me.
I personally have felt the top 20 or so programs will consolidate to form their own college football league. What incentive does Michigan/Ohio State have to stay in a football conference that includes Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland, the entire Big 10 west, etc? Same can be said with the top schools in the SEC and ACC. It was only a matter of time before all these main money making schools from all conferences joined forces.
I also think Yormark was seeing this future as well, which is why he has been viewing the Big 12 as a basketball conference.
I also think Yormark was seeing this future as well, which is why he has been viewing the Big 12 as a basketball conference.
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Right, but that eliminates the idea that sports betting can carry a league. It helps, but I think that impact is the same across any type of league.
The difference in viewership isn't due to size of fanbases. It's due to non-fan viewership. When a given team is on ESPN2 vs. ABC, viewership goes up several times, if not an order of magnitude. A fanbase is going to find that game, and aside from the relatively small percentage college football viewers that don't have ESPN2, this huge difference can only be explained by viewership from fans of other teams.
Big numbers are all about attracting eyeballs from fans of other teams.
I do think the concentration of a small league is going to offset, probably more than offset the losses of those viewers from fans of relegated teams at least for a while. The track record of college football is good, but this is handing over it's product differentiator. The other attempts at this have failed. Will this work long-term? We'll see.
Sports, and specifically college sports, has been a bubble waiting to burst for years now. It's why we've gone through several rounds of realignment. The major media companies need to consolidate the product because they can't afford it all. This is just another step in that direction. It'll be the P2 for awhile, but eventually, they won't be able to keep paying the lower tier teams the increased rates and it'll contract again.
Each time it contracts, there will inherently be less eyeballs because they are going to lose the random CFB fan. Less eyeballs, even if its not a huge percent, plus increasing costs, isn't going to be a recipe for success. So changes will keep happening until an equilibrium is met. I'd bet that ends up with some stupid super league of national names. Though it'll probably take another 20 years to get there. I wish they'd just pull off the band-aid and do it now.
Ultimately, I love when we have CFB success, but am more of a basketball fan. As long as MBB and WBB can have access to compete at the highest level than the CFB landscape doesn't matter much to me. Heck, maybe it'll let us spend more resources on MBB and WBB.
Each time it contracts, there will inherently be less eyeballs because they are going to lose the random CFB fan. Less eyeballs, even if its not a huge percent, plus increasing costs, isn't going to be a recipe for success. So changes will keep happening until an equilibrium is met. I'd bet that ends up with some stupid super league of national names. Though it'll probably take another 20 years to get there. I wish they'd just pull off the band-aid and do it now.
Ultimately, I love when we have CFB success, but am more of a basketball fan. As long as MBB and WBB can have access to compete at the highest level than the CFB landscape doesn't matter much to me. Heck, maybe it'll let us spend more resources on MBB and WBB.
This is the thing that I think is incredibly short sided. For G5 schools it’s pretty common for alumni/students to be a fan of one of the larger state schools. In Michiagn for example most Western Michigan alums ten to root for Michigan and most Central Michigan alums root for MSU.
However I don’t think that carry’s over to a school like Indiana where every just becomes a ND fan or watches a school from another state. Same thing goes for a Rutgers or Maryland fan base who doesn’t have another big school in the state.
This is all so stupid if it actually ends up happening.
The fans care about that, doesn’t change the paycheck. Also is there anything more college sports than “just wait until next year?”. If you lose then you just change the coach and go get different players. For example this year what difference does it make e to tOSU fan between getting beat by Michigan and not making the playoff vs going 4-8? Not much. Goals not met either way.
SMU absolutely has the money.
You'd almost certainly have to add North Carolina, Virginia, NC State, Miami, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Stanford, SMU, Duke at minimum and that gets you to 47 without any surprises and I guarantee there are surprises out there.
I like your optimism, err, pessimism? But, it seems unlikely this will happen - more & more people are watching college football every year & although ISU gets more eyeballs than they ever have before, the bigger teams are getting way, WAY more
ISU will be on TV somewhere, but not on ESPN & Fox
Exactly. We are now at the point where the owners of college football will use their figurehead organization, the NCAA, to sort the sport into profitable brands and margin reducing brands and work toward the situation where they can get just about as many eyeballs at 75% of the cost to them.
I mean Iowa State can't play UNI in anything without the word PantherHawk being spammed endlessly over every thread on this board. Tons of PantherClones too....
Disagree on SMU. They have money but there are levels.
And hell no they won't want any of those teams - maybe Miami, UNC.
If they wanted them they would have gone after them. They didn't.
They don't have this idea of needing 50 schools. They don't need 50 schools. They don't want 50 schools.
If you didn't see this coming for the last 3 years (at least), you were just blind or willfully ignorant.
A second NFL has existed for over a century & has been wildly successful to the point where you & I talk about online incessantly - they're just making it official now
I don’t like it but you’re right, no way ASU or NCST get that call. Neither does SMU. Stupid, it’s all so stupid
You're lacking the vision here. It will be just like NFL, 7-5 gets you in the playoffs.
