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stewart092284

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Yeah. I am with you because I think that its all crazy but even sports illustrated picking it up for it now. So we'll see. But it is a crazy amount, no matter what it ends up being
 

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I wonder if Harrison’s agent is telling him to be very wary of taking a mega NIL deal instead of going for the draft. Even if they did pay up $20 million (which they won’t), the money he gets on the front end, he forfeits on the back end. Meaning, he will be one year older when he becomes an unrestricted free agent. A wide receiver can only play so long. I would rather have that year of service in the NFL than with the Buckeyes.. Maybe I am looking at it wrong, but he would be stupid and the Ohio. State buckeyes would be stupid for doing that.
 

isucy86

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They have it. No question.

In the last 18 years Ohio State's boosters have donated over $500 million dollars to the University's athletics.

They can very "easily" come up with 20-25 million


Iowa State ranked 41st with over $200 million donated. That's a lot of money.
Iowa raised $477 million and ranked 16th during that time period.


Michigan during this time period (2005-20220 raised $493 million. Alabama raised $536 million.


Ohio State raised $538 million beating both in terms of donations from athletic boosters.



But why would they pay that much? The other stud OSU WR's are going to have their hand out too. If Harrison is worth $20M, why wouldn't they each ask for $5M+. What about their QB or RB?

IMO this is more about intentional misinformation and people trying to distort the marketplace in general.
 

clonehome

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They don’t have that much money. In 2023, $63M of OSU’s athletic dept revenue came from donor contributions.

Assuming that number is roughly even to their collectives, but, even if the collectives have 50% more contributions than the athletic department, we’d be saying 20-25% of those dollars are going towards Marvin Harrison Jr alone. No way
If your numbers are close to right then I’m even more discouraged about all this than I was before. How can the rank and file programs which make up the bulk of college football compete with a handful of teams that can spend $50-$100 mil per year on player compensation? Why should Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers and Maryland and several others take the field against Ohio St?
 

SolterraCyclone

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If your numbers are close to right then I’m even more discouraged about all this than I was before. How can the rank and file programs which make up the bulk of college football compete with a handful of teams that can spend $50-$100 mil per year on player compensation? Why should Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers and Maryland and several others take the field against Ohio St?
The donor contributions to the athletic department are accurate. I have no idea how much OSU collective’s budget is. I’m simply using the donor contributions as a proxy for a potential collective budget, and how unlikely it would be with that budget to afford to pay a player $20-$25M.

I could be overestimating by miles. Someone posted an article of Gene Smith quoting $13M for the collective last year
 

Cmonwhatarewedoinghereman

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The donor contributions to the athletic department are accurate. I have no idea how much OSU collective’s budget is. I’m simply using the donor contributions as a proxy for a potential collective budget, and how unlikely it would be with that budget to afford to pay a player $20-$25M.

I could be overestimating by miles. Someone posted an article of Gene Smith quoting $13M for the collective last year
I posted that. It was from last summer. Day thought they needed 13 mil to keep the entire roster in tact. Of course he was over-estimating. The whole point of the articles by buckeye friendly websites and the AD’s comments were to scare people to give more.

They then bragged in another article about giving Stroud, smith-ngigba, and others 500k like it was awesome. Those were really good, top-flight players.

Unless Marvin Harrison Sr is looking to avoid paying inheritance taxes by giving his son 20 mil to stay around, this whole thing is miles from what’s really happening.

A guy who is a “consultant” for NIL collectives writes a story for SI (he’s not an SI reporter by the way). Then the collectives freak out and call, who else, an NIL “consultant”. The wheel spins around.

Thank you solterra for your informative posts today.
 

Cyclad

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The donor contributions to the athletic department are accurate. I have no idea how much OSU collective’s budget is. I’m simply using the donor contributions as a proxy for a potential collective budget, and how unlikely it would be with that budget to afford to pay a player $20-$25M.

I could be overestimating by miles. Someone posted an article of Gene Smith quoting $13M for the collective last year
The B10 and SEC will have the ability to “redirect” money. At least for now schools cannot be involved in NIL. These conferences will have massive excess TV money. So, they can direct their TV partners to send say $20M to their NIL And balance to the school.
 

SolterraCyclone

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The B10 and SEC will have the ability to “redirect” money. At least for now schools cannot be involved in NIL. These conferences will have massive excess TV money. So, they can direct their TV partners to send say $20M to their NIL And balance to the school.
Ok. I just want to take a second to rein everyone in here.

There will 100% be a large revenue/budget gap between the B10/SEC haves and the have nots of the rest of college football moving forward. No question.

But when we’re talking about $10, $20M NIL deals (shoot even $5M deals), those are NFL-level contracts. There is not a college team, not even Texas, that can compete with the NFL.

The average, per-team revenue for the NFL in 2023 was $581M. Around $225M of that goes to the players. While the B10, SEC have huge TV contacts, they will max out at around $100M per team. The TV contracts probably account for 50-60% of a school’s ENTIRE athletic budget.

Colleges are not even in the same stratosphere as the NFL, and they also have to take care of a hell of a lot more athletes than just the top football players. So, to think they could pay as well or better than the NFL is just not realistic in my opinion.
 

Cmonwhatarewedoinghereman

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Ok. I just want to take a second to rein everyone in here.

There will 100% be a large revenue/budget gap between the B10/SEC haves and the have nots of the rest of college football moving forward. No question.

But when we’re talking about $10, $20M NIL deals (shoot even $5M deals), those are NFL-level contracts. There is not a college team, not even Texas, that can compete with the NFL.

The average, per-team revenue for the NFL in 2023 was $581M. Around $225M of that goes to the players. While the B10, SEC have huge TV contacts, they will max out at around $100M per team. The TV contracts probably account for 50-60% of a school’s ENTIRE athletic budget.

Colleges are not even in the same stratosphere as the NFL, and they also have to take care of a hell of a lot more athletes than just the top football players. So, to think they could pay as well or better than the NFL is just not realistic in my opinion.
I feel like we wasted an entire Sunday making this point. Our family did a 500 piece puzzle today so at least I can say we did that.
 

MyNameEhJeff

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Way. He was their offense. They were one game away from winning a national title. If they spend a little bit more on a QB and get him back to them - they think they are one of the favorites for next year.

Big 10 boosters are just as insane as SEC ones.

They weren’t one game away from winning a national title. The big ten’s best team will be bounced in the semifinal once again this year. Same thing would’ve happened to Ohio state
 

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They weren’t one game away from winning a national title. The big ten’s best team will be bounced in the semifinal once again this year. Same thing would’ve happened to Ohio state
I think he was referring to last season when they would've faced TCU in the championship if they managed to upset UGA.
 
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