He grabbed his head and threw him down by it. You need to review that and call it a flagrant 2 to set a standard of what is allowed and what isn't. If that doesn't get you thrown out of a game then I'm not sure what will. Honestly I think the NCAA or whoever the governing body is for officials needs to come out and say that should have been a flagrant 2 with an ejection to send the message that it's not acceptable and to set that standard.
*** Official #2 Houston vs IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***
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Maybe he should just jump every time!
Free throws are hard. Some will disagree, but it's not the drop in the bucket like it looks.
One was at home and one was on the road. The eye test home record over the years demonstrate we are much better (as is most of college basketball) when we play at Hilton.
I feel pretty confident those numbers would be roughly reversed in concert with the venues. The trick is consistently playing within a "reasonable" variance of home level intensity. Unfortunately if it were that easy we and everyone else would be more competitive on the road.
Especially with a snow storm crowd. I think that's overlooked or discounted a lot (since the game is inside), but it's just a different vibe
If Hilton sounded full last night, it's because the people who will come out in a snowstorm to root for ISU against #2 are the ones who make 100% of the noise every other night.
One was at home and one was on the road. The eye test home record over the years demonstrate we are much better (as is most of college basketball) when we play at Hilton.
I feel pretty confident those numbers would be roughly reversed in concert with the venues. The trick is consistently playing within a "reasonable" variance of home level intensity. Unfortunately if it were that easy we and everyone else would be more competitive on the road.
I disagree. They had great effort but they haven't faced a defense like this before. They crow about their #1 defense but ISU's defense is also elite.
Looked at stats and how huge was free throw line. 1/3 of our points came from line. If we shoot our average we probably don't get it done. So well done team. Keep it up. 
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Even though he gave props to the Cyclone fan base, Sampson’s post game was just weird. Angry, disinterested. Almost MadFran like.
We won last night, but we are not going to win a lot of games against better teams going 3/15 from outside the arc.
Days of going 30-2 because your hardest league game is @Memphis are over I guess.
I was wondering that when they didn't review it, if they can go back after the game and say no that should have been flagrant 2 and suspend him for the next game. I have no idea how the refs let that go. That was completely excessive and could have resulted in a serious injury.
If they play defense like that and hit 18-22 from the FT line they will.
Yeah, They probably have to play what 2 tough road games a year previously and they were way more talented than every team sans Memphis in the conference. Now every game except a couple teams are a battle. Only Cryer knows what is like. Heck, most of these guys are used to getting so many nights where they get to rest on the bench in blowouts in conference play.
In my Stone Age years of playing high school girls’ six on six, had a teammate who always jump shot them. She was slightly under five feet tall, I think she needed the momentum.
The coach required the forwards to make 10 in a row after practice. If you didn’t by the time he wanted to leave, you had to run a mile around the inside of the high school, including steps. Dude made the assistant coach stay to lock up.
I only had to do it three or four times, I could shoot but sucked at everything else. Some girls had to run every night. When one of them fell on the stairs and broke her arm, the principal put an end to that punishment.
Correct, a high percent of angry noisy fans last night. I was surprised at the number of kids in attendance. It was an interesting mix. Kids with earmuffs, and angry screaming adults.
That is a lot of "ifs", we both know that this team will not play defense like that every night, nor will they get the line 10 more than their opponent does on a given night. We played well last night, but we still have to shoot better from distance to continue to win games, especially on the road.
I agree. I'm much more in favor of, if it's considered to be even close to 50/50, calling it a flagrant 2 when a physical team is involved and it's early in the game. I also like that line of thinking when the play comes in the midst of escalating physicality/behavior. It sends a message and helps promote a certain level of safety. Thankfully it wasn't a precursor for more physical or dangerous play the rest of the game.
One of our girls who plays soccer had a tournament in DM last year. We hate playing in DM as the tournaments typically have some of the lowest quality referees we see. Anyways, we were slated to play a local (DM area) team that was known to be notoriously physical; there had also been issues with their parents in one of the previous games. Luckily we had an African American (as in he was originally from Africa and emigrated) ref who obviously had several years of refereeing experience (both here and abroad). He talked to the teams at length before the game and after a fairly physical early foul by the opposing team, stopped the game and gave the team another stern verbal warning. It completely set the tone for the rest of the game as the opposing team was less physical. This obviously created a much safer environment and served as a reminder that it is "just a game" for these 8th grade girls. He was also very nice and called a great game (which he could be the head ref for all of our games).
This also has a lasting effect over time. We've seen it in football with the helmet to helmet hits. It's not immediate noticeable but over time there has been a vast decrease in unsafe launches/hits. Players learn the rule, adjust, and ultimately the game is much safer from it. I think they missed this call but won't complain about it as the body of work was about as good as it gets from officials these days.
