*** Official #14 IOWA STATE vs Texas (SAMSUBA) Game(Day) Thread ***

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I keep saying it but impatience seems to be something this team falls into.

I think it may be an effect of all the chaos they create on defense and that kind of rhythm bleeds into their own possessions.

It's pretty remarkable that they only had one turn over in the 2nd half. Watching the replay (couldn't see it live) and that last few minutes is some classic 'can't watch, can't look away' stuff.

FWIW they seemed to have more space and time in their shots last night which maybe helped. Things were pretty frantic in Waco.
I hadn't thought of the helter-skelter play on O being a side effect of what we are good at doing on D but, that makes every sense in the world. Very good point
 

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Nightmare fuel.
 

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I agree with Blum that we are a no. 3 seed knocking on the door of a 2 seed. Maybe too early to speculate, but I'll say it. If we somehow beat Houston and win the regular season title ( and make a deep run in the conference tourney), you almost have to put us in the conversation for No. 1 seed, wouldn't they? Can't leave the conference champion of the best conference in the NCAA out of talk for No. 1, the way I look at it.
They will give it to KU, just because.
 
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As usually, you ask the stupidest ******* questions on the board.

It's a message board genius. If any of us (especially myself) had said connections we wouldn't be on a message board.
Seek help. I'm talking about counseling. Start with being kind to your neighbor. We could be here to help you with that but you have to realize you are not the apex of all conversations here. You do not need to put others down. You do not need to make long posts. You do need to get a grip.
 
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I'm watching some right now in the 2nd half and Disu was scoring at will on Ward as well from inside and out.
thank you I was thinking the same thing. BRE got beat when the guy shot from outside. Unless that is his normal shot let him shoot itand take the chance he misses. and long rebounds are hard to get off the board when you are down low.
 

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What the absolute hell?
Locked on should be ashamed. Unless, 'some dude in his kitchen willing to spend 30 min talking about your team' is their niche.

In fairness - Rob Gray did the reaction Pod with Chris after the game and said that he did not watch either because he did not have Longhorn Network. I do think it shows even Longhorn fans are not willing to pay for the network either.
 

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thank you I was thinking the same thing. BRE got beat when the guy shot from outside. Unless that is his normal shot let him shoot itand take the chance he misses. and long rebounds are hard to get off the board when you are down low.

To me it looked like Texas was doing a nice job of creating some form of switch on ISU's D to get Disu in some space and at an angle that opened it up for him to shoot or drive.

Turns out D1 basketball players can make plays.
 
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To me it looked like Texas was doing a nice job of creating some form of switch on ISU's D to get Disu in some space and at an angle that opened it up for him to shoot or drive.

Turns out D1 basketball players can make plays.

Disu is a stud. You don't score 22 points in 10 minutes without being one, regardless of the defense that's played.
 
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RE Ward and Jones - after adding last night Ward is slightly ahead of Jones in Adj. Offense Eff. Jones is better in every other category. These are for the whole season, but they are adjusted for opponent:

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I wouldn't use Miya and would say it's impossible to adjust for the opponent played. Why use theoreticals when you can simply look at the entire season, or noncon for that matter, then compare to in conference performance? While the season matters in some context, as in the games WERE played, the conference games are of far more relevancy. Why? We are currently in that part of the season, the play in said season is more reflective of the players current performance, and said competition is the level we will be playing the rest of the way.

Basically, why use Miya when you can use Torvik and isolate those conference stats? This isn't to hate on BRE but the world knows, even Rob knows, athleticism isn't his attribute. When you consistently perform stronger against weaker competition and comparatively drop performance against stronger competition it says something. Just as it does with guys like Ward and Watson improving.

The in-conference advanced metrics HEAVILY favor Ward, just as they did for Osun last year. I can't say for certain, as I don't know, but the data does suggest Otz might not be the most objective when it comes to BREs playing time. There could be other (plausible) reasons, but without knowing them while also seeing a similar trend repeat itself it's a fair thought.
 

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He was the only player in the negative foe the game and was -5. Not sure what the breakdown was between halves but I'm pretty sure he was close to a minus 8 to 10 without digging. In 5 to 6 minutes of basketball that's pitiful.

He's simply not good enough to ever warrant playing time unless we have 3 guards fouling out. Even if it means less than optimal rotations I'd play Watson, even Omaha over Pavs. He's beyond physically outmatched and is probably the worst player in the league that sees the floor and by a wide margin.

Makes less than zero sense.

You do realize that our starters need breaks. When guys on the bench come in to give them a blow, they usually are not as good as the starters and maybe need a year to develope more but can still help the team. When someone used to sub in for Michael Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, and the rest of the goats, the backups were not as good. They still need guys to give those guys a rest. Your take is really bad. Pav comes in and is good enough to give us some bench minutes. That’s what his job is right now. Maybe he develops, maybe he don’t but he is helping this team
 

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I really wish people could remember the first 21 games, where BRE was dunking and not missing those bunnies, with a 60+ shooting percentage and think “maybe he had one bad game and doesn’t have to “learn how to make bunnies””. Remember when people were saying Tre should be benched in the UH game and he secured the win for us in the 2nd half, or that Tamin shouldn’t see the floor against UT but won the game for us, or Gilbert:”bla, bla, bla”, or “Curtis Jones sucks”.

Guess what: players aren’t perfect, but everyone of our players has made winning plays for us this season. If we’d have benched players based on CF we’d have only 3 players on the floor at the end of games.
 

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I don't believe there's been any kind of study on it or anything but I think the 'not dunking' piece may be because it expends more energy than a floater or layup.

Is also a quicker shot than working through the physicality that may be needed to finish vs. a defender etc.
 

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I don't believe there's been any kind of study on it or anything but I think the 'not dunking' piece may be because it expends more energy than a floater or layup.

Is also a quicker shot than working through the physicality that may be needed to finish vs. a defender etc.
IMO, it's nice in theory but doesn't take into account a player's individual explosiveness, the time it takes to gather for it, the disruption in momentum when you try to dunk through contact and whether or not the player is off balance at the time he gets the ball. Ward is a guy that you could probably say should dunk everything (and for the most part he tries), but sometimes it just isn't possible.
 
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I tend to agree on Milan, but if I am an opposing coach, I'm probably putting my best defender on him. It's a process learning to score on elite defenders. As far as 3-pointers, out defense is built on shutting down points in the paint. That leaves us a little more vulnerable on the threes, but statistically the net effect has been positive. Most teams will win if they have multiple guys shooting lights out from the three-point line but most teams will shoot themselves out of a lot of games by excessively relying on the three.

I hear what you are saying about best defender on Milan but you do that then Keshon will likely destroy his guy getting to the hoop. Its nice to have multiple options.