***2023-24 Mens College Basketball Thread***

RezClone

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It is an unfair standard that for conferences like the Valley, the expectation is that you must be perfect (outside of a tournament AQ) in order to qualify. The idea that Iowa could seriously be more "deserving" of a tournament slot over either of these teams just doesn't pass the eye test.
It hurt them a lot losing all their biggest brands in the last 10 years. There was a time not long ago they got multiple teams in at large.
 
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It is an unfair standard that for conferences like the Valley, the expectation is that you must be perfect (outside of a tournament AQ) in order to qualify. The idea that Iowa could seriously be more "deserving" of a tournament slot over either of these teams just doesn't pass the eye test.

When you don't play many quality opponents, it ups the margin for error in the remaining games.

When i compare Iowa and Drake, its not just that Drake is "not perfect".

Drake has 2 losses that are worse than Iowa's worst. Drake's best win? If they don't win today it'd be a home game vs Net 26 indiana state. Iowa's best win? A road game vs net 23 Michigan state. Edge Iowa.

They have an equal number of Q1 wins. Drake's winning percentage vs q1 is better, but that's largely in part due to iowa playing losing its toughest 6 games that were all tougher than any game Drake has played. Iowa has 1 loss to teams lower than 100. Drake has 5.

The main difference between the two in terms of overall w/l is that drake played more q3/4 games and iowa played more q1a games.
 
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Whoever is on the broadcast made a strong argument for teams like Drake and Indiana State. Basically that these power 5 schools who’ve had countless opportunities to pick up Q1 wins and failed to do so should be left out. These good mid majors can’t get anyone to play them yet have taken advantage and picked up wins when given the rare opportunity.

Personally I agree Drake and ISU should both be in if Drake wins.

I said it in a different thread - Drake has the same number of Quad 1 wins as Iowa. Iowa has had 11 Quad opportunities. Drake 4. They both have 3 Q1 wins. The committee 100% should put Drake in over Iowa. But they likely won’t because of P6 bias.
 
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