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Bader

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Why would they even select it then...?

I get they need some western locations, but there's so many better spots/arenas.

Seattle (the old Sonics arena has some charm about it)
Portland (Blazers)
Sacramento (new Kings' arena)
San Francisco (new Dubs' arena)
LA (whatever the Staples Center is called nowadays)
Las Vegas (duh)
Phoenix (Suns' arena)
Salt Lake City (Jazz arena)
Denver (Nuggets' arena)
Boise (a nicer city with a nicer arena)

You could even throw places like Omaha, Kansas City, Oklahoma City, Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio into the mix as being "western" enough to quality as a western location for one of the sites.

Plenty there to never have to think about Spokane again.

I had no idea Hilton hosted a regional final

 

NoCreativity

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Wouldn't North Carolina or Tennessee be the 2 seed in the East? I'd be happy with a 2 or 3 in the Midwest opposite Purdue or to be sent to the West with either UNC or Tennessee as the 1.
 

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I think the list is right (teams in the semifinals of their conference tournament) but the graphic is all messed up.
Just a quick glance and Texas, TCU, Creighton, Missouri are all done so clearly not going to make the semifinals

Edit - they said the graphic is from last year.
Also they can’t even make the list yet because the SEC and big 10 aren’t to the semis yet. So why even put this out. Just wait 24 hours lol


And Arkansas didn't even make the Quarterfinals, so....what?
 

DSMCy

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And Arkansas didn't even make the Quarterfinals, so....what?
The list is the teams currently in the semifinals of their respective conference tournaments. That’s why there are no SEC or big 10 teams listed, since they are still in the quarterfinals

The graphics is from last year, showing the teams that made the conference tournament semifinals
 

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Perhaps, but finding out after the fact that the committee had you lower than you expected to be is a little different...I could be remembering incorrectly but I don't recall any doubt about whether we'd get in going into Selection Sunday.
I think we all thought we were securely in, yeah.
 

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I'm sure it boils down to 'this is the way that we've always done it' NCAA style logic.

Also, they've completely renovated the old Sonics building for the Kraken and it's a really cool place now.
I think it’s dependent on schools/conferences bidding on hosting. Not sure who is hosting the Spokane location (I don’t think it’s Gonzaga).

My guess is schools/conferences in LA/SF/Seattle/Phoenix/Denver and other, larger western locations didn’t bid to host.
 

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The list is the teams currently in the semifinals of their respective conference tournaments. That’s why there are no SEC or big 10 teams listed, since they are still in the quarterfinals

The graphics is from last year, showing the teams that made the conference tournament semifinals
It can't hold true after today no matter what happens, so it's a really bizarre tweet.
 

SolterraCyclone

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Wouldn't North Carolina or Tennessee be the 2 seed in the East? I'd be happy with a 2 or 3 in the Midwest opposite Purdue or to be sent to the West with either UNC or Tennessee as the 1.
One will be the 2 in the West as the best 2-seed. The other will go to the South
 

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It can't hold true after today no matter what happens, so it's a really bizarre tweet.
Not sure what you mean that it can't hold true. Maybe it won't but we won't know until after the tournament

The tweet is saying that every eventual national champion since 1993 has also made the semi finals of their conference tournament.
The graphic shows the teams that made the semifinals last year. Obviously UCONN is in the graphic since they did both of those things last year.

The tweet is saying the eventual national champion will come from one of teams listed in the tweet (not the graphic). But the list will expand to include SEC and big 10, after their quarterfinal games today.
 

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I think it’s dependent on schools/conferences bidding on hosting. Not sure who is hosting the Spokane location (I don’t think it’s Gonzaga).

My guess is schools/conferences in LA/SF/Seattle/Phoenix/Denver and other, larger western locations didn’t bid to host.
The University of Idaho is the host.

Those larger cities tend to get regionals rather than 1st/2nd rounds and they are stuck on having two western sites even though they've shown over and over it doesn't matter for TV or anything. The western site is rarely the one scheduled for the late windows. Heck, the last time UNI played in Seattle, the first round game tipped at 10:15 AM local time.
 
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I think it’s dependent on schools/conferences bidding on hosting. Not sure who is hosting the Spokane location (I don’t think it’s Gonzaga).

My guess is schools/conferences in LA/SF/Seattle/Phoenix/Denver and other, larger western locations didn’t bid to host.

The University of Idaho is hosting the Spokane site.
 
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I'm always impressed when hobbyists online can keep up with supposed "professionals" in their field.
Palm gets the benefit of CBS getting the bracket first, they get it to set up the graphics for the broadcast, so he can magically change it morning of and look respectable.
 
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My updated bracket this morning after that loaded slate of Thursday games.

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  • If Iowa State beats Baylor, they're a 2-seed. If they lose, they're the 3-seed in the Midwest.
    • Most likely scenario if they beat Baylor is a 2-seed in the East. Depending on how UNC/Tennessee/Arizona/Marquette finish the season, they could also be the 2-seed in the Midwest or West. I'd say East/Midwest/West is order of operations there.
  • I originally had Drake as the 11-seed in Omaha in the Kansas pod, but I had to move them to account for First Four matchups. If Iowa State is the 3-seed in the Midwest, don't be shocked if Drake is the 11 there.
  • Here are my rough tiers right now per my seed list:
    • 1-3, 4-6, 7-10, 11-16, 17-28, 29-35, 36-42, 43-46 (plus first 3 out).
  • In my opinion, there are 7 spots available amongst these 12 teams. Colorado, Oklahoma, Mississippi State, St. John's, Texas A&M, New Mexico, Pittsburgh, Indiana State, Seton Hall, Providence, Ohio State, Kansas State. That's the order I would have them ranked as well.
    • Of those 12 teams, I think Colorado, Oklahoma, and Mississippi State are 90%+ to make it, and I think Ohio State and Kansas State are at less than 10% (if Ohio State beats Illinois, that changes).
    • So you could simplify it a little further to 4 spots for 7 teams. Three of these teams will not make it -- St. John's, Texas A&M, New Mexico, Pittsburgh, Indiana State, Seton Hall, Providence. There's your bubble.
  • Having said all that, it's a bit curious to me how all 105 brackets on Bracket Matrix have Seton Hall in the field right now, and 6 have Kansas State. Let me be clear, I don't think and I don't want Kansas State in the field -- they are my least favorite Big 12 team. But these resumes are quite similar to me, yet one is in 105 brackets, and one is in 6. 1710517105522.png
    • I do think there's some groupthink going on right now with Seton Hall, and the entire reason everyone has them in is because they beat UConn. Just last year, Rutgers big resume win was at Purdue, and they had somewhat similar resume metrics (Seton Hall KPI/SOR 68/40; 2023 Rutgers KPI/SOR 49/57). They're my pick right now for the Selection Sunday "how did this team not make it?" surprise reaction.
 

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Not sure what you mean that it can't hold true. Maybe it won't but we won't know until after the tournament

The tweet is saying that every eventual national champion since 1993 has also made the semi finals of their conference tournament.
The graphic shows the teams that made the semifinals last year. Obviously UCONN is in the graphic since they did both of those things last year.

The tweet is saying the eventual national champion will come from one of teams listed in the tweet (not the graphic). But the list will expand to include SEC and big 10, after their quarterfinal games today.
Lordy. I completely misread that tweet. I thought it was saying that all of the Champions since 1993 are currently in their conference tournament semifinals.

Makes more sense now.

Thanks.
 
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