You are trying to twist the meaning. And trying to deflect from the fact that the play at the end of the game was a textbook foul.
2024 NCAA Tournament Thread
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I keep watching that video and it does not look like an illegal screen to me. I don’t even notice any contact with the UConn player. She didn’t impede any progress of the UConn player on defense. If you are using this to compare the play at the end of the game, you are grasping at major straws.
Was she moving?
Is it OK to move while screening?
It's not the same thing but is it OK to move while screening is the question.
And why didn't CC get called for pushing off?
Cant take the women's tournament seriously. Clearly the calls are deciding games. With 4 seconds left, the refs should let it play out. No calls unless super obvious. This is definitely fixed.
If you don’t make contact with the defender, YES it is ok. That is not a foul.
And CC should get called for pushing off. Ridiculous that didn’t get called.
Why are you so hyped up about this? It absolutely sucks that suckeyes won. That’s what matters. The holier than thou sh*t from Cyclone fans is almost as exhausting as their media coverage.
The play was super obvious after watching the replay over and over, the girl for UCONN did slide over, but with 8 seconds or whatever they had left, I still do not like the call. Let the players decide on the floor the game. When I was watching it at full speed, it was not nearly as bad as the slow motion version looked. We have reached a point where they can pick apart any play and find fault or a foul. The were a couple of plays last night that the refs missed badly, an out of bounce that went to Iowa and a drive to the hoop that the Iowa girl was not touched but they called a foul anyway. Either one of the those plays looked different after viewing the replay, but you can't watch replay of every play. Let the players on the floor determine the outcome, not the refs. Really I think EIU had the play defended very well, and UCONN would have been lucky to get a decent shot. But I would have liked to seen them get that opportunity.
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This thread is showing that we need to be careful to not start coming off like Iowa fans after the flag on DeJean’s invalid fair catch signal … particularly since Iowa State wasn’t even involved in this situation.
- Watching the play live, particularly with the slo-mo replays, I was a bit skeptical about the call.
- It appeared technically to be a moving screen, but not the type that’s generally called. Especially at that point in the game.
- But, seeing the play run back in full speed (and focusing on the screen instead of the ball, as one does live), it looks super obvious and definitely, aggressively shoving Marshall off her line. And it’s clear that an official seeing that happen in front of them at game speed is probably going to make that call.
- The replay also appeared to show Bueckers was loading up for the game-winning three-point shot at the time; but Stuelke was actually rotating out to guard her. It would not have been an easy shot.
- And don’t forget that Clark missed her second free throw and UConn had the opportunity to get the rebound, call time out, and inbound on the offensive end with a shot to tie/win … but they didn’t get the loose ball.
- Watching the play live, particularly with the slo-mo replays, I was a bit skeptical about the call.
- It appeared technically to be a moving screen, but not the type that’s generally called. Especially at that point in the game.
- But, seeing the play run back in full speed (and focusing on the screen instead of the ball, as one does live), it looks super obvious and definitely, aggressively shoving Marshall off her line. And it’s clear that an official seeing that happen in front of them at game speed is probably going to make that call.
- The replay also appeared to show Bueckers was loading up for the game-winning three-point shot at the time; but Stuelke was actually rotating out to guard her. It would not have been an easy shot.
- And don’t forget that Clark missed her second free throw and UConn had the opportunity to get the rebound, call time out, and inbound on the offensive end with a shot to tie/win … but they didn’t get the loose ball.
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When you don’t call any obvious foul, that is the exact opposite of letting the players determine the outcome. In this case, the player determined the outcome by fouling.
I was trying to subtly hint that earlier. Maybe I shouldn’t have been so subtle.
Walking out and shoving the defensive player is super-obvious. Don't want a foul called? Don't foul.
This is a discussion board. We discuss sports. There are two things happening here that I also see happen in politics a lot.
1. People hear what the media says and form an initial belief. Even after being presented with evidence that disputes that initial belief, they stick so firmly to it that they start rationalizing.
2. People are so bias that they can’t see things objectively. In this case, the hatred for Iowa clouds judgment.
This is NBA, but the rule applies at all levels:
The let them play is exhausting. And the almost allergic reaction to the Iowa got the benefit from a call (which was a foul) from Iowa State fans is equally exhausting.
I think replay showed Clark came down on the foot of the UConn player.
I can't remember which game it was but there was one game where players were literally being knocked down all over the floor and no fouls were called because it was the end of the game, I suppose.
