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Medicare For All. That is what we need.
I just wish we had the option for medicare at an earlier age, I believe just the ability for anyone to sign up and use medicare would force the insurance companies to lower their prices to compete because medicare has for the first time the ability to tell drug companies what they are wiling to pay for meds.

If you want to stay with your employee health care system that is fine, but medicare should be an option for everyone at any age.
 

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WOW I came to this page thinking the title was "Recruitment Targets" like football players and I was very confused how the thread got so far off topic that people were talking about retirement and finances hahaha
 
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I just wish we had the option for medicare at an earlier age, I believe just the ability for anyone to sign up and use medicare would force the insurance companies to lower their prices to compete because medicare has for the first time the ability to tell drug companies what they are wiling to pay for meds.

If you want to stay with your employee health care system that is fine, but medicare should be an option for everyone at any age.
Or at least align with other government age mandates such as 59-1/2 or 62. Heck, even age 55 since you can access your pre-tax retirement at 55 with the rule of 55 now.
 

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Or at least align with other government age mandates such as 59-1/2 or 62. Heck, even age 55 since you can access your pre-tax retirement at 55 with the rule of 55 now.
Any lowering of the age would help, I know quite a few people putting off retirement because of their inability to purchase healthcare insurance at a decent price therefore they continue to work, staying on their companies healthcare plan. Being able to get on medicare at say even 55 would allow those people to retire, opening up more good paying jobs for the younger generations.
 
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Any lowering of the age would help, I know quite a few people putting off retirement because of their inability to purchase healthcare insurance at a decent price therefore they continue to work, staying on their companies healthcare plan. Being able to get on medicare at say even 55 would allow those people to retire, opening up more good paying jobs for the younger generations.
I dont want to retire at 55 but I sure would like to be working at a golf course by that age. Im guessing healthcare benefits are not the best for those type of jobs.
 

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Any lowering of the age would help, I know quite a few people putting off retirement because of their inability to purchase healthcare insurance at a decent price therefore they continue to work, staying on their companies healthcare plan. Being able to get on medicare at say even 55 would allow those people to retire, opening up more good paying jobs for the younger generations.

Lowering the age for Medicare would be a very good idea. I am thinking 50 years old. With the eventual goal of Medicare for All. At least the option of getting it.
 
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I dont want to retire at 55 but I sure would like to be working at a golf course by that age. Im guessing healthcare benefits are not the best for those type of jobs.
Working a job because you still want too but no long have too is very enlightening to the employee. I taught a couple of years after reaching my rule of 88 because I wanted to be able to draw SS at 62, rather than retiring earlier and then forced to go out and find a 2nd job to make up the difference.
I made it very clear to our administration at that point, and told them "if you piss me off, I will walk."and you can find someone to replace me. They actually wanted me to teach a few more years after I gave my notice, but I was past burnt out, and financially it really did not make sense to continue teaching.
 

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I'd love the Medicare option earlier. Since it's underfunded, I assume the last thing they are going to do is lower the age.
 

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Any lowering of the age would help, I know quite a few people putting off retirement because of their inability to purchase healthcare insurance at a decent price therefore they continue to work, staying on their companies healthcare plan. Being able to get on medicare at say even 55 would allow those people to retire, opening up more good paying jobs for the younger generations.

I hear ya, but can't those people get the same insurance taking a much lower role at the same (or similar) company? If that's all that's keeping you working, there are a lot of options that don't involve working 40+ hours a week at a job that's either tough (physically or mentally) or that you just don't enjoy.
 

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I hear ya, but can't those people get the same insurance taking a much lower role at the same (or similar) company? If that's all that's keeping you working, there are a lot of options that don't involve working 40+ hours a week at a job that's either tough (physically or mentally) or that you just don't enjoy.
Many feel that if they are going to continue to work, they might as well stay at the level they are currently at, with the pay and responsibility that comes with that position. At many companies if you are not a full time employee they do not cover your insurance.

I have known 4 or 5 teachers that retired, took the four required months off and then came back to the district and taught halftime and still collected their IPERS. Allowing them to postpone a few years to get a larger SS check when they actually retired. Since they were only half time, they got no insurance from the school.
 

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Not exactly sure.
Many feel that if they are going to continue to work, they might as well stay at the level they are currently at, with the pay and responsibility that comes with that position. At many companies if you are not a full time employee they do not cover your insurance.

I have known 4 or 5 teachers that retired, took the four required months off and then came back to the district and taught halftime and still collected their IPERS. Allowing them to postpone a few years to get a larger SS check when they actually retired. Since they were only half time, they got no insurance from the school.
I believe IPERS now shortened the wait to 1-2 months. Heard a school up here gave the option to those that could collect to retire at the end of the year, come back and start at the beginning teacher wage.
 

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I just wish we had the option for medicare at an earlier age, I believe just the ability for anyone to sign up and use medicare would force the insurance companies to lower their prices to compete because medicare has for the first time the ability to tell drug companies what they are wiling to pay for meds.

If you want to stay with your employee health care system that is fine, but medicare should be an option for everyone at any age.
I think if that was done, employers would RAPIDLY reduce their cost share on health insurance, driving almost everyone to Medicare. That would overwhelm the gvmt both logistically and financially I think.

Businesses don't want to have anything to do with insurance if they can help it. Lots of complexity to manage, even if it wasn't a significant expense, which it is.
 

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I think if that was done, employers would RAPIDLY reduce their cost share on health insurance, driving almost everyone to Medicare. That would overwhelm the gvmt both logistically and financially I think.

Businesses don't want to have anything to do with insurance if they can help it. Lots of complexity to manage, even if it wasn't a significant expense, which it is.

Not to put on a conspiracy hat, but the system seems designed to keep the workforce in place.

Plenty of folks working for the insurance when they would retire otherwise.

That seems to be desired outcome.
 

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I believe IPERS now shortened the wait to 1-2 months. Heard a school up here gave the option to those that could collect to retire at the end of the year, come back and start at the beginning teacher wage.
They did during Covid, but then turned around and went back to the old system a couple of years later. It possible they changed it again, but I have not read anything about it in the IPERS newsletter we still get. They also took off the cap a person could receive while drawing IPERS, not sure if that has been put back on again or not.
 

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Not exactly sure.
They did during Covid, but then turned around and went back to the old system a couple of years later. It possible they changed it again, but I have not read anything about it in the IPERS newsletter we still get. They also took off the cap a person could receive while drawing IPERS, not sure if that has been put back on again or not.
Temporary it appears

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Not to put on a conspiracy hat, but the system seems designed to keep the workforce in place.

Plenty of folks working for the insurance when they would retire otherwise.

That seems to be desired outcome.
The system also strongly incentivizes people to not work. If you have no income you can get free healthcare, and that's regardless of any amount of savings/investments!

Ironically getting your healthcare paid for in America only sucks if you need to work a job to pay other bills.
 
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I would guess this would help districts that are struggling to hire qualified teachers in some fields. Allow them to retire, then turn around and rehire them in the fall without sitting out what used to be four months. Now they can count the summer break and allow them to start back in August as opposed to October under the old system.
 
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I dont want to retire at 55 but I sure would like to be working at a golf course by that age. Im guessing healthcare benefits are not the best for those type of jobs.
I am in this age bracket. This past week I turned down an opportunity to farm additional land as it would require me to step away from my job with benefits. If I was eligible for Medicare I probably would have accepted the opportunity....but at my age the idea of paying for health care would offset a large percentage of the additional farming income.

Funny, by my turning down the additional acres, it results in the not hiring of a potential young professional to fill my position while the land will go to a large farming entity that will just add the farm to their portfolio with no additional labor. America!
 

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Not exactly sure.
I would guess this would help districts that are struggling to hire qualified teachers in some fields. Allow them to retire, then turn around and rehire them in the fall without sitting out what used to be four months. Now they can count the summer break and allow them to start back in August as opposed to October under the old system.
I’m curious if they would be at the 50k rate or the 62 level.
 

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