First AP Poll Released for 2024 season

SolarGarlic

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meh it is what it is.

I still don't get the kansas love but time will tell
They're trendy in the same way we were from 2019-21. The same way Texas Tech was last year. I'm more confused by the Arizona love.

We'll see how Grimes does as the new OC at KU. I think he's a downgrade from their last OC, although his offenses at Baylor gave us trouble.
 

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I swear you could put an IA 8-man team in UMiami jerseys and they’d be in the preseason top 25. They’re in every year
 
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meh it is what it is.

I still don't get the kansas love but time will tell
I dont get the Iowa love.

They always over rank them preseason.

They might do ok with their pathetic schedule, but when they actually play someone with a pulse they will get killed just as in years past.

Just a sham they let them basically protect the entire B1G West.
 

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Big 12 Teams:

Utah - 12
Oklahoma St - 17
K State - 18
Arizona - 21
Kansas - 22

Iowa State - 30th


Yeah it's the bottom of the poll but 5/25 is not bad at all.

About a third of the conference ranked or almost ranked.

Add this to the normal dominance where we have 8/9 ranked basketball teams before they have to play each other.
 
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If you remove ISU playing Iowa, we still play 3 ranked teams to their 1.

They really hoodwinked the Big Ten with claiming all those rivalry games.

ISU's average SOS the past decade is 11 and Iowa's is 38. 11 is actually way stronger than it seems as an average because for a team to be say #3 it means they can basically never drop below #6. I'm guessing averaging #8 SOS for a decade is probably the toughest possible and we're at 11 for a decade prior to this year.

ISU's will probably drop down to something like 30ish and Iowa's will probably tick up just slightly to about 30ish (talking average, this year ISU's will probably end up stronger). There is a path now where ISU can catch an "easy" year once in a while like Iowa has often had though where the 10 team era of Big 12 guaranteed an elite schedule strength every single year. We didn't get that draw this year with our Big 12 schedule having plenty of good teams, but it can happen some other year and hope we feast on it.
 
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2speedy1

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If you remove ISU playing Iowa, we still play 3 ranked teams to their 1.
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I dont get the Iowa love.

They always over rank them preseason.

They might do ok with their pathetic schedule, but when they actually play someone with a pulse they will get killed just as in years past.

Just a sham they let them basically protect the entire B1G West.
Yeah, but you start them out in low 20s and they'll pretty consistently beat the unranked teams on their schedules. Then they play someone with a pulse and get their doors blown off. The team with a pulse gets a win over a ranked opponent and Iowa gets to hang around in the 20s because their only losses are to "really great teams."

Iowa is the personification of neither good nor bad, but play a very specific role in propping up the B10.
 

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I never liked looking at any polls until mid October. Let the teams play six or so games before coming out with a ranking.

It gives us all something to debate and makes sure a few select teams/conferences get a solid head start so if they lose a bye game or something they can still 'survive' in the end.
We're in the 'they're not even hiding it now' phase of this all being about the money so whatever.

FWIW 30 is probably about right for ISU and it would be fun to see them ranked a few weeks this season.