Big 12 Conference Realignment

[ClubCy]

What should be the case is Big12 and ACC have just as much ability to get 4 CFP teams as the Big 10 or SEC.

Let what happens on the field matter 100%. Let's debate resumes, not the names on the front of the jerseys.

To say the Big12 should be ecstatic because we have the limited possibility of 2 teams in a 12 team playoff is tokenism. And insulting to ACC & Big12 fans.

I agree but to get that we need multiple teams going 11-1 and 10-2! We can’t have a 9-3 conference champ and a bunch of teams at 8-4/7-5. All these projected brackets (which aren’t real or predicted by actual committe members) are assumptions…braketology for football.

If you had to put your own money on it, where would you personally pick Utah and K State (our preseason 1/2) to finish if they were in the SEC? Not where the media would put them. Where would you predict them to finish if you had to bet your own money.

 

[HouClone]

But your missing the point. If that happens it's because of our NET based on game performance.

The Big 10 & SEC are trying to rig the CFP by saying they deserve 4 teams without a game being played.

So can the Big12 argue/demand 13 NCAA Tournament bids in September?

What happens on the field/court should matter.

I agree with you that results should matter. There are not enough football games to compare unfortunately.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Do you favor going back to pre 1984 as far as how TV revenue was distributed? Because right now Michigan state gets $40 million more per year than Iowa state for having the same number of playoff wins.

Ummm ok? Not 100% sure what you’re getting at here

 

[Kinch]

Ummm ok? Not 100% sure what you’re getting at here

In 1984 TV revenue was distributed more evenly, until the Supreme Court opened the floodgates when they said each school had rights to their TV revenue. Do you support a shared revenue system like what was in place or do you support having teams being bad in football more years than not like Michigan State lately getting $40 million more than teams that are more successful? Let’s say the Big 12 does win several playoff games. Does Michigan State deserve $40 million more than say TCU or Iowa State or whoever wins those games? You are the one who indicated playoff wins were important.

 

[jctisu]

Man there is some crazy in this thread.

 

[Big_Sill]

I have bet with other people on here before, your just completely wrong saying their will never be a Big12 at large bid is all

You continue to be willfully ignorant and blind to the greed, arrogance, and collusion of the Big10, SEC and media partners. At this point it baffles me how one can be this way.

There will never be 2 big12 teams in the playoffs. It’s not the plan.

 

[ClubCy]

You continue to be willfully ignorant and blind to the greed, arrogance, and collusion of the Big10, SEC and media partners. At this point it baffles me how one can be this way.

There will never be 2 big12 teams in the playoffs. It’s not the plan.

Never? Never ever? You are confident that not one time will the Big 12 get 2 teams in?

 

[RustShack]

You continue to be willfully ignorant and blind to the greed, arrogance, and collusion of the Big10, SEC and media partners. At this point it baffles me how one can be this way.

There will never be 2 big12 teams in the playoffs. It’s not the plan.

The Big12 will probably get two teams in the playoffs more often than not, unless the second best team is like 8-4.

It’s also weird that people think ESPN only wants B1G and SEC schools in the playoffs, with ESPN isn’t even affiliated with the B1G but they are with the Big12 and ACC.

 

[Big_Sill]

Never? Never ever? You are confident that not one time will the Big 12 get 2 teams in?

I’m confident there will never be 2 big 12 teams in the current form of the playoffs, yes. Nobody can guarantee this, but I feel solid about it.

Will the format change soon, probably.

 

[Big_Sill]

The Big12 will probably get two teams in the playoffs more often than not, unless the second best team is like 8-4.

It’s also weird that people think ESPN only wants B1G and SEC schools in the playoffs, with ESPN isn’t even affiliated with the B1G but they are with the Big12 and ACC.

My take that big 12 never gets 2, is way more reasonable than the big 12 more often than not gets 2. You are smoking crack.

 

[RustShack]

My take that big 12 never gets 2, is way more reasonable than the big 12 more often than not gets 2. You are smoking crack.

The Big12 routinely got 1 in for the 4 team playoff. 2 for the 12 team playoff isn’t that crazy. Even Cincinnati got in as a G5.

Just win games. That’s all it takes.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

The Big12 routinely got 1 in for the 4 team playoff. 2 for the 12 team playoff isn’t that crazy. Even Cincinnati got in as a G5.

Just win games. That’s all it takes.

Don’t say just win games. People get very upset

 

[Cloned4Life]

Get back to me during basketball season when you are arguing ISU should have a higher seed versus another conference team with less losses due to us navigating the Big 12 gauntlet.

The “metrics” in basketball are about 17 million time more meaningful than college football. There’s simply WAY more games played, more teams, a mountain more data, more cross-matchups, etc.

So yes, I correctly plan on bringing up the Big 12 gauntlet for this upcoming MBB season.

Meanwhile, SEC football schedules are “gauntlets” because some doucher named Paul Finebaum said so.

 

[goody2012]

My take that big 12 never gets 2, is way more reasonable than the big 12 more often than not gets 2. You are smoking crack.

I would say more often than not there will be at least 2 teams that go 7-2 or better, which is what it will take to make the playoff...

 

[Kinch]

The Big12 routinely got 1 in for the 4 team playoff. 2 for the 12 team playoff isn’t that crazy. Even Cincinnati got in as a G5.

Just win games. That’s all it takes.

When outkick idiots are using the word “controversial “ for the Big 12 getting one, I really can’t see the committee being likely to consider two very many times.

 

[isucy86]

Don’t say just win games. People get very upset

But will it really be about just winning games. If it is great. But that's not how the Big10 and SEC are positioning things. They want a guaranteed 4 teams before we have week 0 kickoff.

And no I shouldn't be happy if the Big12 is tokenly given a 2nd CFP bid, just because it's more than 1.

All I want is a level playing field and let season records and SOS determine the 12 teams. Not conference commissioners, TV Execs or brand name preference.

 

[ClubCy]

The “metrics” in basketball are about 17 million time more meaningful than college football. There’s simply WAY more games played, more teams, a mountain more data, more cross-matchups, etc.

So yes, I correctly plan on bringing up the Big 12 gauntlet for this upcoming MBB season.

Meanwhile, SEC football schedules are “gauntlets” because some doucher named Paul Finebaum said so.

Out of curiosity what would be your w/l prediction be if we had Oklahoma’s schedule this year.

 

[CyCrazy]

That it’s dependent on the scenario. Schedule, who they lost/won against, record, ect. I don’t think an 8-4 will ever get an at large no matter the conference. I also think 9-3 is a stretch but could be dependent on the schedule.

There’s like 15 posts in a row of people already complaining about the Big 12 being left out before the season even has even started.

I *think* what @FriendlySpartan was trying to convey by “win” is if the Big 12 has multiple teams at 12-0/11-1/10-2 we won’t have to worry about getting multiple bids. We would get 2 no question. While parity in the league is fun it will absolutely kill the conferences # of bids if everyone is 9-3/8-4.

No ****.....

 

[ClubCy]

No ****.....

Perfect. Sounds like you understand it.

 

[CyCrazy]

Perfect. Sounds like you understand it.

Doesnt mean **** though.