sounds like they're intentionally being obtuse. nut cup brainrot mentality.
Big 12 Conference Realignment
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sounds like they're intentionally being obtuse. nut cup brainrot mentality.
2020 was an absurd year, and yes the XII is generally redder than the B1G* but there are arguments about the Rust Belt I’m not gonna post here because it’s irrelevant.
IIRC, the big issue with OSU is that Indiana won the B1G won the East that season but the league crumbled and removed the min 6 game requirement for a conf champion. Yes, OSU beat IU by a touchdown head to head. But rules are rules and from where I stand, the B1G bended its rules to push the Buckeyes ahead.
All I’m saying i would be furious if I was a Hoosier. And Cyclones and Hoosiers have a lot more in common that Cyclones and Buckeyes (even if casual fans confuse us all the time
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Covid year didnt count? Big 12 and SEC sacked up and played. B10 only did when pressured. Doesnt count my arse.
Not going to cave this by getting political but your first paragraph tells me everything I need to know so appreciate that
Yeah, not trying to cave it either, but people who are of the opinion that COVID didn't affect our lives never were aware of the situation in hospitals in big metro areas, such as Detroit, where I live. My wife, who needed an emergency surgery during the height of COVID for an unrelated issue to COVID, had to settle for a hospital bed in a crowded hallway because the hospital was overrun with patients infected with COVID who up to that point didn't think COVID was a big deal and as a result were dying due to the illness and their own stupidity. It was that way for years.
100% agree. But we’ve done ourselves no favors by being pretty much non competitive in the playoff. Cements the narrative whether true or not.
And we have helped the cause with our spitting the bit against Hawks. I think we’ve had overall better talent the last 5 years and yet….
I’m officially confused. Many loud mouths on here have said our COVID season didn’t count and try to minimize what we accomplished that year. Now I see some of those same folks saying how the COVID season was legit because it helps their argument against the Ohio State inclusion and this ongoing battle with our Spartan fan visitor. Well which is it?
And yes I don’t think Ohio State had any business being in the CFP that season.
And yes I don’t think Ohio State had any business being in the CFP that season.
And some people think the Iowa game on our schedule somehow isn’t as important as conference games…
The Big 12, collectively, has to find a way to win as many non-conference football games against P4 as possible. Year after year. Early season, bowl games, whatever. It’s one of the most critical ‘things’ for the conference…
Wait, you have heard, Cyclone fans say the covid year didnt count? Or our inports? Because if you have or do hear a Cyclone fan saying that year doesnt count, please Slap them as hard as you can.
I can't stand the Lakers but it annoys the hell out of me when people discount the bubble NBA title. You locked up the best basketball players in the world where they did nothing but focus on basketball and somehow that...makes the basketball not count??? They played a 72 game season and full 16 team playoff.
I'm generally not one of the over the top LeBron fan boys but it's the weakest argument his detractors make against him.
I think the Covid year was a Campbell masterpiece. He saw the opportunity presented with a disciplined team that as the season wore on avoided Covid illness that undisciplined teams could not.
In some respects, I would say it was more of a challenge to win in that year than not, so myself I give people more credit for succeeding when so much was against them.
The teams that succeeded managed to stay healthy, managed to overcome all the shutdowns, managed to play the games, and managed to come out on top. (outside those like OSU who was all but gifted the playoff while not even trying to compete)
Oh I do and there have been several on this board over the years. They are the typical woe is me folks, and especially bring it out when we struggle in September. Last year after the Ohio game there were a bunch of them because “Matt’s really on the hot seat. He’s been pretty good, but the big season we had was due to COVID and we just got lucky that we didn’t get hit by it like most of our opponents.”
That type of BS.
Yep. This is the point. How dare we navigate the pandemic as well as we did? And lest we forget, the stories came out after the season that Covid hit us pretty hard in fall camp leading up to the Louisiana game.
And look, yes teams were depleted at times (KSU for example) but we were clicking on all cylinders including beating OU and absolutely **** stomping several others by season’s end.
Uh we did get hit just like the others. We managed it better through the season. But we lost that first game that year partly because a lot of the team had been in quarranteen up to that game and had little to no practice leading up to it.
But we played, and took our licks, and get all kinds of crap for losing that game. Yet teams like OSU just flat out cancelled games to avoid losing and no one talks about it. Teams like KSU used it as an excuse why they lost, yet continue to degrade us for losing that first game, because our issues didnt matter.
Covid caused issues but for some, we dealt with them and sacked up and played. For others they hid in their closets and avoided playing cuz they might lose, then got rewarded for being too scared to play the games, because they were afraid missing a player or two might cost them the game. The entire system was a joke, and proved just how biased it is.
I guess my point was/is that Iowa State has a history of nut cup striking over the years. If it's left up to humans and TV to decide, we more often than not get hosed
tOSU had the minimum required players/positions to play per the conference guidelines but chose not to play i believe Illinois so they basically said we don't feel we can field a competitive team and canceled. If it was anyone else it would of been a forfeit. But the conference caved on the rules they set.2020 was an absurd year, and yes the XII is generally redder than the B1G* but there are arguments about the Rust Belt I’m not gonna post here because it’s irrelevant.
IIRC, the big issue with OSU is that Indiana won the B1G won the East that season but the league crumbled and removed the min 6 game requirement for a conf champion. Yes, OSU beat IU by a touchdown head to head. But rules are rules and from where I stand, the B1G bended its rules to push the Buckeyes ahead.
All I’m saying i would be furious if I was a Hoosier. And Cyclones and Hoosiers have a lot more in common that Cyclones and Buckeyes (even if casual fans confuse us all the time
Right, win the games. Got it. We have 1/4 of the resources that Purdue or NW has. It’s stupid.
Correct, look at Texas schedule, very very soft. Way easier than a big 12 schedule.
What would you predicted our record to be with their schedule? I see 6-6 7-5.
