Big 12 Conference Realignment

FriendlySpartan

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What would you predicted our record to be with their schedule? I see 6-6 7-5.
Texas’s schedule isn’t too hard this year but it’s kinda funny that people are railing against the preseason rankings as being unfair (don’t disagree) but then using those same rankings to say that certain teams schedules are soft. If you don’t like the preseason rankings and think they are trash I get that and agree but that sword cuts both ways.
 

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Uh we did get hit just like the others. We managed it better through the season. But we lost that first game that year partly because a lot of the team had been in quarranteen up to that game and had little to no practice leading up to it.

But we played, and took our licks, and get all kinds of crap for losing that game. Yet teams like OSU just flat out cancelled games to avoid losing and no one talks about it. Teams like KSU used it as an excuse why they lost, yet continue to degrade us for losing that first game, because our issues didnt matter.

Covid caused issues but for some, we dealt with them and sacked up and played. For others they hid in their closets and avoided playing cuz they might lose, then got rewarded for being too scared to play the games, because they were afraid missing a player or two might cost them the game. The entire system was a joke, and proved just how biased it is.
Look at my post above yours here replying to Kinch and I said everything about our fall camp Covid and Louisiana game.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised to see the SEC and Big 10 stack the deck more in their favor by eliminating non-rivalry, non-conference games against the Big 12 and ACC.

It would only be Clemson-South Carolina, ISU-Iowa, FSU-Florida, Georgia-Georgia Tech, Louisville-Kentucky. The Big 12 comparison hopes would be on ISU beating Iowa and Iowa doing damage in the Big 10 schedule. The ACC has a much better comparison argument with more SEC games and with Notre Dame playing Big 10 and SEC teams.
Good point. I wonder how often they do the WV vs. Penn State game? This is a rivalry game I think, and leads off the set of games this Saturday.
 

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What if...
KSU goes 11-1 only loss at ISU
ISU goes 11-1 only loss at Utah, goes to B12 championship avenges loss to Utah 12-1 (auto bid)
Utah goes 12-1 only loss to ISU in B12 championship.

Would the B12 get 3 teams in CFP?
No Iowa State would get left out
Correct. Iowa State loses out to Texas A&M on their dynamic aforementioned come-from-behind victory or New Mexico State.

Edit: I was being sarcastic, knowing ISU would be in. But glad that our @FriendlySpartan friend is awake tonight.
 
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Not exactly sure.
In the past 20 years they have more individual teams with national championships than the Big 12 has appearances. What’re we doing here?
Ok, big 12 has 6 appearances in the last 10 years. SEC has like 9 teams with championships or so?
 

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Not exactly sure.
I don’t understand what any of these replies mean.
You said that the SEC had more teams win championships in the last 20 years than the big 12 has appearances.

I checked and we had 6 appearances in the last 10 and 10 in the last 20. So you are saying the SEC has had at least 11 difference teams win the natty in the last 20 years.

Pretty simple
 
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You said that the SEC had more teams win championships in the last 20 years than the big 12 has appearances.

I checked and we had 6 appearances in the last 10 and 10 in the last 20. So you are saying the SEC has had at least 11 difference teams win the natty in the last 20 years.

Pretty simple
I guess I should have specified when I meant Big 12 appearances in the actual championship game. I should have more clear but thought that it was assumed.
 

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You said that the SEC had more teams win championships in the last 20 years than the big 12 has appearances.

I checked and we had 6 appearances in the last 10 and 10 in the last 20. So you are saying the SEC has had at least 11 difference teams win the natty in the last 20 years.

Pretty simple
Thing is, when the SEC gets double the participants most years, its easier to win championships.

When the B12 has 1 participant, and the SEC gets 2. They have double the chance to win the championship, without talking the strength of the teams involved.

This will only be increased moving forward as they will get more like 3-5 times as many teams in the playoff than the B12. Put 4 B12 teams in and only 1 SEC team in for a decade, I could almost guarantee the B12 would have more championships.

Everyone knows not always the best team wins the games, so having more competitors drastically increases the chances of a championship.
 
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Thing is, when the SEC gets double the participants most years, its easier to win championships.

When the B12 has 1 participant, and the SEC gets 2. They have double the chance to win the championship, without talking the strength of the teams involved.

This will only be increased moving forward as they will get more like 3-5 times as many teams in the playoff than the B12. Put 4 B12 teams in and only 1 SEC team in for a decade, I could almost guarantee the B12 would have more championships.

Everyone knows not always the best team wins the games, so having more competitors drastically increases the chances of a championship.
The SEC actually only won 2 of their 6 CFP championships when they had multiple teams but I do agree with the math. Usually the best team in football wins out. Unlike basketball I feel like the CFP does a pretty good job at determining the best team
 

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Remind me how well that worked for Div I-AA (hint: it didn't - Re: the dozens of teams that jumped from Div I-AA to I-A and then from FCS to FBS over the decades since DI split that way).
The B1G/SEC and the TV networks just split college sports into 2 tiers so that horse has already left the stable. But they want the ability to pretend that it’s a level playing field so their teams can puff their chests about being “national champs.” **** that. Let them be national champs of less than half the teams.

What I’m proposing doesn’t remotely resemble the I-A/I-AA split. Clemson is not Furman, Oklahoma St is not Tulsa, and Iowa State is not Drake. Instead of being playoff fodder for Alabama, Georgia and Ohio St, the best of the remaining teams would be playing for a meaningful national title of their own. And that’s just in football. In every other sport, especially college basketball, the rest of the teams would play for the real national title while the B1G/SEC teams would be left twisting in the wind. I honestly think it’s the only way to turn the table and start ******* Greg Sankey and the other ******** who have Stanford playing in the ACC and Oregon St and Wazzu relegated.
 

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That would be 5 appearances then. So 6 SEC teams?
Fine man, you got me. The SEC has had the same of amount of programs win a national Championship as the Big 12 has had appearances in the national championship game since 2004.

My point remains that it is dumb to not be ok with admitting the SEC has been the best conference in America.
 

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Fine man, you got me. The SEC has had the same of amount of programs win a national Championship as the Big 12 has had appearances in the national championship game since 2004.

My point remains that it is dumb to not be ok with admitting the SEC has been the best conference in America.
There is a little recency bias here. The first seven years of BCS, SEC only won 1 championship outright.
 
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