Big 12 Conference Realignment
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Yep. Yormark is really good about getting the information he wants out there to the right guys to broadcast it.
This was way better than it leaking from UConn. Made it much more credible.
Yormark wants the Big 12 to always be on people’s minds, and he has been a master at making sure something is always going on. Conference naming rights, private equality, Rucker Park, Mexico City and on and on.
The dude knows what he’s doing and is always playing chess vs most everyone else’s checkers.
Also in the end Yormark is going to get what he wants in UConn if the Huskies want to come. If I am the Big 12 ADs and presidents I am saying on one condition, you (Brett Yormark) sign a 10+ year agreement not to leave lol.
The dude knows what he’s doing and is always playing chess vs most everyone else’s checkers.
Also in the end Yormark is going to get what he wants in UConn if the Huskies want to come. If I am the Big 12 ADs and presidents I am saying on one condition, you (Brett Yormark) sign a 10+ year agreement not to leave lol.
It’s pretty common for multiple reporters to report the same thing the same day this day and age. They have access to the internet like the rest of us.I don’t know. Multiple big name reporters all jumped in with similar details at the same time. Definitely felt like a coordinated leak as opposed to random tidbits spilling from individual ADs. Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but in the fact that Marchand, Dellenger, and McMurphy all had stories ready to drop on a Friday afternoon seemed odd to me...
Maybe they were just waiting on the Endeavor check to clear???
If understanding that "the Big 12 champion automatically qualifies for the playoff, and that if ISU wins the Big 12 Championship it's impossible to be left out of the playoff" is considered "elite standards", that says a whole lot more about you than it does me.
Sure it does. The big media companies as well as the Big 10 and SEC are looking to maximize the money they keep for themselves and minimize the money they give to everyone else, and your solution - intentionally separating from them for some kind of fairy tale dream that it will cause the college football scene to collapse upon itself - just makes that goal easy for them.
You know what they'd say? "Bye, Felicia", and then just schedule amongst themselves. And because we wouldn't be playing by their rules, disqualify us from the playoff, keeping all 12 spots and all the money for themselves.
I said in a previous post that I was being sarcastic. I understand all that. Lighten up OK? Cool/
And you believe that the advantages that the B1G and SEC will have over the next several years, and beyond, have "always existed"?
The advantages that the P2 have are going to be increasing at an alarming rate, if you are in the P3/4, or any other conference. But no need to worry, just win, right?
Yes. Winning changes narratives and can get you the benefit of the doubt. There’s a reason why the Big 12 doesn’t get as big of the pie. Hint: we didn’t win games in the CFP when we got in.
I did chuckle that our nolaneer friend posts that the Big 12 needs to win ASAP and you replied agreeing with him but cannot get over the fact Sparty said the same thing and has been getting crapped on for days.
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Just because you have an advantage doesn’t mean it always works out for you. Cincinnati proved that by making the playoffs. TCU proved it by still making the playoffs even after losing the Big12 championship. Could have been pretty easy to leave a G5 or a non Big12 champion out of the four team playoff. Thankfully the committee isn’t just from B1G and SEC. That’s what people don’t understand, their votes are actually the minority if strictly them against everyone else.
It’s a little more than just winning, and much is out of anyone’s control due to size of fan base, market, etc. Florida State recently won a title and played for another and then Clemson had the run they had but the ACC still is mocked and not treated anywhere close to the SEC or Big Ten, despite having more success in the last 15 years than the Big Ten especially until Michigan finally won it last year.
But yes, you might as well do that part right since you can control it. If you are in these flyover places with no massive pull, you don’t want to not win too because then you just make it too easy for the SEC and Big Ten.
I think a large part of the ACC deal is Miami has not held up their end since joining and the 2nd and 3rd their teams have been hot garbage and have shown little to interest in investing in football.
If the Big can go:
11-1
10-2
9-3
8-4
8-4
(Idk if that’s even possible)
Plus win a game in the CFP and the conversation will begin to change. Another problem is recruiting plays a large part in preseason hype and rankings. We don’t have any programs that recruit consistently in the top 20.
To an extent I agree with this. But that Clemson team went from being a laughing stock for “clemsoning” to being considered a top team. They did that by winning their games especially the ones that mattered in the playoff and big stage. Now they are being considered as a fit for the SEC when before that run they would have been laughed out of the room.
The ACC gets **** on, in my opinion, because the conference outside of the top two has been very bad, it’s actually very similar to the last 4ish years of the big ten when the second tier teams completely fell off and so the schedules are awful. We make fun of the west a lot (deservedly so) but we couldn’t even give most Michigan tickets away last season to anyone other than students on campus, the schedule was so soft because their was no second tier
ClubCy, I'll stand behind what I have said to both our WV and Spartan friends. Yes, again, winning is going to be part of the answer for us in the Big 12, a big part I simply don't like hearing it constantly from a B1G fan who supports MSU #1 and Mich #2. I don't mind him being here and he is a good poster, generally. It just gets old when he repeats himself. He and his argument also comes from a position of strength, conference-wise.
I more easily agreed with @Nolaeer, that yes, we need to win, but also then pointed out that it is becoming increasingly more difficult to win directly against, and compete with the P2. That is the point you are not balancing. It is also the prime reason FSU and Clemson are clamoring to get out of the ACC, and for them, into the P2. They know what the advantages are and just how hard it will be to compete on a tilted playing field without them.
Discussing the subject with a fellow conference mate, who has been there, and is going thru the same things we are, is quite different than simply agreeing with a B1G fan.
So the majority think that everything is ******** and there’s bias for the P2 (which i sort of agree with the bias part) but half think it’s BS because the outside of the top 1-2 teams we are on par with those two leagues. The other half thinks it’s BS becasue the deck is so stacked against us that we can’t even compete. So which is one is it?
Let me put it this way - let’s say WVU beats PSU and both finish 10-2. Who gets in? I think we all know the answer. I’d be thrilled to be proven wrong.
