HIPPA is a medical thing. Coaches are not bound by HIPPA. However, if their players want it to stay private, coaches shouldn't violate that trust.
Illegal NFL gambling was occuring way before that as well
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Illegal NFL gambling was occuring way before that as well
Right if the player tells a coach they can tell whomever. The consent piece is either the player telling someone or telling the medical team they can tell people. Obviously a coach is going to know 99% of the time and it falls back to your point of trust.
I think you could bake that into collective bargaining. But college athletics do not have a union to bargain with. So, until a union is formed, I don’t think you can have the conferences or NCAA to disclose injuries. And, without disclosing the injury how would you enforce the legitimacy of the reports of time out? Just say that every player is day to day every game.
Yeah, like not playing on the punt team when you are the starting MLB on a team short on LB's.
It’s literally already happening in 3 leagues and it has not been an issue whatsoever. Big 10 did it all year last year and it went completely unnoticed due to it not being a big deal.
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For several reasons:
1) It's likely against federal law. Without a change in the law, the threat of a lawsuit for FERPA violation would be enough to dissuade most schools/conferences from trying to make it mandatory.
2) Even if they did make it mandatory, it would create a mountain of bureaucracy to enforce.
3) I don't know that many of these entities (school/conference/player) even want this. It's the gamblers that do.
Once a coach feels there can be an advantage to not disclosing it, it will get challenged. For example, if FSU’s QB last year would have been hurt a bit later, could they have hidden the injury to keep it the playoff committee from knowing the extent of the injury? If FSU were to say that he would be available for the playoffs and didn’t disclose what the injury was, could the media legally report any rumors they might have heard otherwise?
Not sure about the legal ramifications if the media reporter the severity of the injury but it was said on many national articles and podcasts that FSU should have tried to hide the severity of his injury due to the playoff bid. Which they could have hid because the ACC didn’t and still doesn’t mandate weekly injury reports. Now if the ACC had those rules in place and FSU blatantly lied then they would have been hit with a pretty hefty fine.
I would argue that more often than not ISU is trying to do more with less and generally doesn't have the depth and talent of a lot of their opponents, so yes I do think it would be a net benefit for ISU if they don't have to disclose injuries. You don't have to agree and that's fine.
Hypertension is what I get from Cyclone football.
Left page 1 here yesterday. Hoping for an update and we now have a ferpa dialogue. Never change cyfan
**** the gamblers. It's impossible to ensure every gambler (and house) has access to the same information leading up to kickoff - which is the entire argument for injury reports. There's still going to be people with insider information unless EVERYONE is forced to be COMPLETELY transparent. Open practices, release video of team meetings, release game plans, etc. All that stuff impacts the game and therefore the betting market.
Sports gambling is all about making the best probability estimate, which is completely dependent on the information environment. So there is always going to be an incentive to get more information than anyone else (or to rig the outcome...). I'd rather just ban sports gambling. Two people making a bet between themselves is fine. With NIL, it's unlikely either side would be able to influence a player or coach when the bets are small. But as soon as a bookie has 5+ figures on a single game, they can afford to pay a participant a consequential amount to influence a result.
I'm actually okay with in-game prop bets because then everyone does have the same info and there isn't any opportunity for a bookie to influence anything.
Sports gambling is all about making the best probability estimate, which is completely dependent on the information environment. So there is always going to be an incentive to get more information than anyone else (or to rig the outcome...). I'd rather just ban sports gambling. Two people making a bet between themselves is fine. With NIL, it's unlikely either side would be able to influence a player or coach when the bets are small. But as soon as a bookie has 5+ figures on a single game, they can afford to pay a participant a consequential amount to influence a result.
I'm actually okay with in-game prop bets because then everyone does have the same info and there isn't any opportunity for a bookie to influence anything.
To be fair people were disagreeing with your initial point that we need mandatory, standard injury reporting, then you shifted the argument to it being inevitable due to gambling. These are two very different things. I think it’s stupid to require it but also think it’s inevitable because of gambling.
We're missing arguably our top 4 LBs. Think if we were missing our top 4 WR. How bad would the WR group look? Pretty damn bad.
