UNLV QB is leaving the program immediately due to the school not withholding NIL commitments

[cykadelic2]

On some level you have to blame the NCAA rules for that.

Because the NCAA limits the number of games one can play and still redshirt to maintain their eligibility, he has to leave midseason if he wants to preserve that and get paid in the future. Otherwise he could just finish out the year and move on.

Its almost inevitable the NCAA will move to a 5 year eligibility rule and get rid of redshirts entirely.

And honestly, when they're getting paid what they are, I can't exactly fault him for leaving the team for the money either. Most people would leave their current coworkers if it meant a significantly larger paycheck, and in the NIL era that's pretty much what they are.

That's BS.

Quitting on your team mid-season in this manner is an unforgivable sin. The kid should be blackballed but won't.

 

[Mr Janny]

Which is why it really needs to go to contracts. Someone in charge (should be the NCAA but they are useless) needs to create a standard contract that all schools use that protects both schools' and players' interests fairly.

And frankly, this protects the mid and lower tier schools more than the blue bloods. Which is about the only reason it might not happen, despite it being in the best interest of about 90% of everybody.

Standardization of compensation is what got the NCAA into this mess in the first place. If all schools offer the same contract language, you can guarantee it will be challenged in court on anti trust grounds. Not a guaranteed loss for the NCAA, but with their track record, I can't imagine they'd want to risk a judgement going against them.

 

[CascadeClone]

Why do college athletics need special rules that the vast majority of employers and employees aren't subjected to? The majority of states have Right to Work laws. Employees can leave with no notice, for any reason. Does it hurt a business when a good employee takes a different job offer, for more money? Yep. But that's the way it works. I can go ask my boss for a raise, right now, and walk out on the spot if I don't like their response. What makes college athletics so different than the rest of the business world, that schools need extra protection from employee turnover?

Competitive balance and prevention of tampering.

Sports is a little different than regular business, since the competitors are also part of the overarching business of "college football" as well. Why are the Yankees not allowed to simply hire every single Pittsburgh Pirate and put the Pirates out of business?

Same concept wrt Alabama buying all of Vanderbilt's players. You lose part of the overall product. Additionally, then there are less overall jobs for players too, so everyone loses. Except Bama.

That's an awkward analogy, but simplest way I can frame it.

 

[Al_4_State]

That's BS.

Quitting on your team mid-season in this manner is an unforgivable sin. The kid should be blackballed but won't.

It’s not if he was given assurances that aren’t being followed through on.

If you agree to take a job for $30/hr and you get your paycheck and it’s $25/hr and the employer goes “well, we can’t afford $30 even though we told we’d pay that” are you going to be cool with that?

 

[CascadeClone]

That's BS.

Quitting on your team mid-season in this manner is an unforgivable sin. The kid should be blackballed but won't.

Making a promise and then breaking your word used to be considered an unforgiveable sin too.

(assuming the kid is telling the whole story)

 

[ScottyP]

there really isn't a governing body for college athletics. Each conference has their own set of rules. Until these conferences come together to use the same set of rules/regulations, it will be the wild west.

There is no point in blaming the NCAA at this point, because they really can't enforce anything.

 

[bosco]

Bag man does not exist if there isn't a bag.

 

[KidSilverhair]

Can we stop using the term "student athlete" now?

Are they still getting scholarships? So in addition to the cash NIL, they can get a free degree from the school? Why even have that cover story of being a “student” - skip the scholarship, use that money on somebody who actually wants the education, and just have the football team be paid brand ambassadors. That’s essentially what we‘ve got, isn’t it?

 

[cykadelic2]

It’s not if he was given assurances that aren’t being followed through on.

If you agree to take a job for $30/hr and you get your paycheck and it’s $25/hr and the employer goes “well, we can’t afford $30 even though we told we’d pay that” are you going to be cool with that?

Making a promise and then breaking your word used to be considered an unforgiveable sin too.

(assuming the kid is telling the whole story)

Highly unlikely that UNLV and their collective broke any promises. Odom would have got them fixed if that was truly the case.

This is tampering by another school for more money and that is where the kid will play next season.

 

[Tailg8er]

He kind of reminded me of Joel Lanning, Our old Quarterback/inside linebacker

Thanks for specifying that, we might not have known which Joel Lanning you were referring to.

 

[Mr Janny]

Why does nearly every professional sports league have a players union?

That's an option, for sure, that circumvents a lot of these anti trust laws, but unions don't just come out of nowhere. The players have to form one. A union would be great for the average player, maybe even very good players. But what's the incentive for a 5 star quarterback, who is going to be in the NFL in 3 years to join? A union doesn't give him any more bargaining power than he already has. A guy like Dominic Raiola doesn't need a union. Schools will already bend over backwards to get him to come.

Even low level players aren't terrible incentivized to sign long term contracts. If a guy doesn't have much hope for a pro career, it's in his best interest to keep his options open, so he can make as much as he can in college.

 

[Gunnerclone]

This sucks but college is pro now. If in the NFL you made an agreement to play and they quit paying you, you would quit also. Guessing there is more to the story but wherever he transfers should immediatly become bowl non eligible.

It’s not the same. A team has a private owner, it’s a business entity. They have contractual obligations to pay their employees.

 

[KidSilverhair]

Why do college athletics need special rules that the vast majority of employers and employees aren't subjected to? The majority of states have Right to Work laws. Employees can leave with no notice, for any reason. Does it hurt a business when a good employee takes a different job offer, for more money? Yep. But that's the way it works. I can go ask my boss for a raise, right now, and walk out on the spot if I don't like their response. What makes college athletics so different than the rest of the business world, that schools need extra protection from employee turnover?

The NCAA and the schools are still insisting they’re not technically “employees,” so none of this would apply. Of course, that’s exactly the reason why they’re insisting that, because they don’t want things like job protections/benefits/unemployment/etc to apply.

It’s a Wild West of money flowing to athletes without any kind of structure or contract or enforcement or protection right now, for both sides. Almost like people didn't really think this through when they came up with this system …

 

[KnappShack]

Can we stop using the term "student athlete" now?

Professional student athlete?

The AD needs to break from the school. License the IP and pay the college for the right.

Then go do sports stuff that is almost completely divorced from the educational focus.

 

[Gunnerclone]

It’s not if he was given assurances that aren’t being followed through on.

If you agree to take a job for $30/hr and you get your paycheck and it’s $25/hr and the employer goes “well, we can’t afford $30 even though we told we’d pay that” are you going to be cool with that?

Who is the employer here?

 

[State2015]

I had read somewhere that he just straight up left for a better offer elsewhere, rather than UNLV shorting him what was promised. Big difference if that’s true and not a great thing for CFB

 

[BigJCy]

IF this true bad look for the kid/family:

 

[Gunnerclone]

I had read somewhere that he just straight up left for a better offer elsewhere, rather than UNLV shorting him what was promised. Big difference if that’s true and not a great thing for CFB

It’s all gross and the fans are the losers.

 

[Mr Janny]

Competitive balance and prevention of tampering.

Sports is a little different than regular business, since the competitors are also part of the overarching business of "college football" as well. Why are the Yankees not allowed to simply hire every single Pittsburgh Pirate and put the Pirates out of business?

Same concept wrt Alabama buying all of Vanderbilt's players. You lose part of the overall product. Additionally, then there are less overall jobs for players too, so everyone loses. Except Bama.

That's an awkward analogy, but simplest way I can frame it.

Why do college sports have a right to restrict worker movement in the name of "competitive balance" but McDonald's and Burger King and other players in the fast food industry, have to compete with each other for employees?

The answer is, they don't, as evidenced by the ruling of Supreme Court of the United States.

 

[3TrueFans]

It’s all gross and the fans are the losers.

You're a loser!