UNLV QB is leaving the program immediately due to the school not withholding NIL commitments

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Highly unlikely that UNLV and their collective broke any promises. Odom would have got them fixed if that was truly the case.

This is tampering by another school for more money and that where the kid will play next season.
If that's the case, the kid is the a$$hole here. If UNLV came up short on what they promised him, they're the a$$hole.

Basically, whichever side didn't honor their word deserves the flak IMO.
 

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It’s not if he was given assurances that aren’t being followed through on.

If you agree to take a job for $30/hr and you get your paycheck and it’s $25/hr and the employer goes “well, we can’t afford $30 even though we told we’d pay that” are you going to be cool with that?

Are you sure that's what happened? This isn't a situation where I'm buying what this kid is selling. If this were a power 4 school, I could buy that you got promised money to play and it didn't happen for whatever reason. A mountain west school? not so much.

This reeks of covering his ass so fans don't kill him on social media. Notice how he doesn't give any details and is extremely vague.
 

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Competitive balance and prevention of tampering.

Sports is a little different than regular business, since the competitors are also part of the overarching business of "college football" as well. Why are the Yankees not allowed to simply hire every single Pittsburgh Pirate and put the Pirates out of business?

Same concept wrt Alabama buying all of Vanderbilt's players. You lose part of the overall product. Additionally, then there are less overall jobs for players too, so everyone loses. Except Bama.

That's an awkward analogy, but simplest way I can frame it.
Until they can figure out a way for collective bargaining to exist for college athletes the pro model can't happen at the college level. Perhaps Congress can step in and do something but they are having trouble keeping the government running right now so I don't have much hope for that angle.
 

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Are you sure that's what happened? This isn't a situation where I'm buying what this kid is selling. If this were a power 4 school, I could buy that you got promised money to play and it didn't happen for whatever reason. A mountain west school? not so much.

This reeks of covering his ass so fans don't kill him on social media. Notice how he doesn't give any details and is extremely vague.
I followed up. It was originally couched as UNLV not following through.

If he's just pulling the plug for more money next year, he's in the wrong. I assumed the initial story was accurate.

My judgment here is simple: if one party is going back on their word, they're in the wrong. Regardless of which party it is.
 

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Why do college sports have a right to restrict worker movement in the name of "competitive balance" but McDonald's and Burger King and other players in the fast food industry, have to compete with each other for employees?

The answer is, they don't, as evidenced by the ruling of Supreme Court of the United States.
well because sports are inherently about competitiveness. I think the burger analogy is short sided. The quality of my burger doesn't change because of some dude in the back getting $10/hr vs $8/hr. But to your point the lack of competitive balance, this is why I don't bother to watch the Olympics anymore and without some sort of CBA in college sports that is what it's going to become, just a joke and a charade.
 
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Just a little common sense goes a long way here. The team is in the top 25 and among the favorites to go to the playoffs and you really think they weren't paying him the midling amount of money he was promised? I mean really?
 
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And you really think that is what happened?
I do. The kid was at partial scholarship Holy Cross last year, put up massive numbers and had all sorts of suitors in the offseason. I'm guessing UNLV gave him a giant offer because that's the only way a kid with his skills ends up there instead of the P4 and they couldn't back up the payments.

If I'm wrong I'll eat crow but this feels like a UNLV problem.
 
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Are they still getting scholarships? So in addition to the cash NIL, they can get a free degree from the school? Why even have that cover story of being a “student” - skip the scholarship, use that money on somebody who actually wants the education, and just have the football team be paid brand ambassadors. That’s essentially what we‘ve got, isn’t it?
Most of these kids are not getting degrees, the student/athlete has been a joke for years. Most of them are majoring in eligiblity, taking enough classes so they can play sports. Talking about the football and MBB teams here, less than half will get a degree, we celebrate those that do, and never talk about the ones that don't.
 
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It's a weird situation because the guy is in literally the last year of his life that he will ever be able to make money from playing football. He clearly found a team that wants to pay him more, but he can't finish the season due to eligibility, or maybe fear of injury.

I don't think him leaving is the story, the fact that some other team clearly talked to this kid's agent during the season and convinced him to quit playing seems like something that should not happen.
 

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Why do college sports have a right to restrict worker movement in the name of "competitive balance" but McDonald's and Burger King and other players in the fast food industry, have to compete with each other for employees?

The answer is, they don't, as evidenced by the ruling of Supreme Court of the United States.
It doesn't make sense to me to compare college sports to regular jobs. College sports isn't employment. They aren't employees. They aren't hired by the school. They are not legal laborers of these schools. They have absolutely no connection whatsoever to how the working world operates. Professional athletes do not operate within that sphere like normal people.

Sports leagues need compared to other sports leagues, which do have controlled pay structures, competitive balance rules, fair forms of representation, ... But, college is completely unserious as a competitive league and doesn't remotely try to act like one, so here we are. We're in no-mans-land of compensating players.
 

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Just a little common sense goes a long way here. The team is in the top 25 and among the favorites to go to the playoffs and you really think they weren't paying him the midling amount of money he was promised? I mean really?

I'm going to guess it may be a combination of both. I wonder if they promised him some up front money and paid him, and maybe said they'd be willing to revisit things based on how he was playing. Probably not a promise, but maybe he had in his head that he'd have the opportunity to get more if he played well.

I'd like to think that once you get past your redshirt quota this wouldn't happen, but I bet this will become common. Guys that aren't wanting to risk injury, etc. unless they are being paid. Let's say Colorado drops a few more-- if you're Travis Hunter I'd 100% go in and say I need 5 million dollars to play another down or I'm shutting it down and going to the NFL.

All this to say, you couldn't pay me enough to be a college coach right now. I have no idea how you'd even begin to manage everything, especially at a bigger school.
 
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