UNLV QB is leaving the program immediately due to the school not withholding NIL commitments
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So your argument is the 15-20% of kids who leave school early to accept their dream career prior to graduating is the signal that kids aren't graduating. Bold choice Cotton!I would say it depends on the talent level of the kid, players with NFL talent, only half are graduating. Kids that get to college and realize they are not going to make money for playing are making up a lot of those kids getting a degree.
What Percentage of NFL Players Have a College Degree? When considering what percentage of NFL players have a college degree, it's notable that a significant number of players do graduate. According to the NFL Players Association, around 50% of NFL players have earned a college degree.Jun 11, 2024
NBA players its at 21%,
Statistics for Professional Athletes with College Degrees
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How does making them employees solve the NIL thing. As employees they can still sell their name, image and likeness for whatever they want.
if im a donor, i would make my NIL deal come with penalties if the player left. Including full reimbursement. Either that, or a portion of the NIL money would be paid after each game. But leaving before the season ended would require all monies to be returned--and yes, I sue to get that money back.
Contracts create obligation, legal as well as moral.
Contracts create obligation, legal as well as moral.
but again the difference is there is an agreement between the NFL owners that while this holdout is going on the player can't just up and leave for another team to provide some competitive balance. I think the focus tends to go to the college kids unionizing but what really needs to happen is the schools to all realize they can't cannibalize themselves for the greater good of the product. But that will never happen because the TexA$$ of system seem to want a school like UNLV to not exist in college sports.
I would say it depends on the talent level of the kid, players with NFL talent, only half are graduating. Kids that get to college and realize they are not going to make money for playing are making up a lot of those kids getting a degree.
What Percentage of NFL Players Have a College Degree? When considering what percentage of NFL players have a college degree, it's notable that a significant number of players do graduate. According to the NFL Players Association, around 50% of NFL players have earned a college degree.Jun 11, 2024
NBA players its at 21%,
Statistics for Professional Athletes with College Degrees
The professional basketball community fields an estimated 21 percent of NBA players with college degrees.
Ok, this is a completely different argument than your original post said.
"Talking about the football and MBB teams here, less than half will get a degree" - vast majority of those players will never play pro, so using percentage of pro athletes with degrees isn't really indicative of "student athletes" as a whole, which is what your post referred to.
UNLV seems like a shady place. It's inherent in the "LV" part of the equation.
I think it's starting to look like Sluka's the ******* here, but I have 0 issue buying the idea that UNLV made a promise they didn't fulfill.
Our society is ridiculous. You don't get ahead this way. Shaming people for doing what's best for them in a society that is completely bankrupt with greed is stupid. Maybe our society should disincentivize greed and there might be different out comes?
This cannot happen without the NCAA or another entity first being granted an antitrust exemption over all of college football. That has to come through Congress, so i wouldn't hold your breath until the Bamas and OSU's of the world start seeing their ox getting gored as well. They have a huge financial advantage that their conferences are not going to be quick to surrender.
So he agreed to a deal with UNLV, won a few games, wanted to go back on the deal and now is quitting on his team? What’s hard to understand?
You forgot the part where he went directly to the coach's office to demand more money while having a completion % lower than Spencer Petras.
How is that different than in a normal work place? Hey I got offered more money for the same thing. I wanted to give you the opportunity to match that. No? OK by then.
I think we are ALL MISSING the point:
It's UNLV, one of the dirtiest Athletic Departments of all time. We should be laughing and happy this happened to them, especially with a QB who isn't good anyway.
It's UNLV, one of the dirtiest Athletic Departments of all time. We should be laughing and happy this happened to them, especially with a QB who isn't good anyway.
Because he legally cannot have an offer for more money. He has rumors of potentially having a better offer next year. This is like you quitting your job after giving your current job an ultimatum based on a salary you might be able to get next year.
Also until the college students are actually employees, you can't really compare the two.
There are about 5500 division 1 college basketball players spread over 4-5 year careers.. If you include d2/3 and NAIA it’s more like 20,000.I would say it depends on the talent level of the kid, players with NFL talent, only half are graduating. Kids that get to college and realize they are not going to make money for playing are making up a lot of those kids getting a degree.
What Percentage of NFL Players Have a College Degree? When considering what percentage of NFL players have a college degree, it's notable that a significant number of players do graduate. According to the NFL Players Association, around 50% of NFL players have earned a college degree.Jun 11, 2024
NBA players its at 21%,
Statistics for Professional Athletes with College Degrees
The professional basketball community fields an estimated 21 percent of NBA players with college degrees.
The NBA has 560 players spread over 10+ year careers. The NBA drafts based on potential and skill more than college production. The most talented kids OF COURSE leave school early to go to the NBA.
NCAA FBS has 16,000+ players. Include FCS and its 30,000+. D2/3? Add on 45,000 more. The NFL has 2200 players (over entire lengths of careers). Football tends to draft players with more experience, particularly when it comes to linemen.
It makes sense that the NFL and NBA have much, much, much lower rates of college graduates than the NCAA as a whole. The relative percentage of kids in that situation is also minuscule. we have recently had our most success in school history for putting out draft picks and NFL contributors… and we have a grand total of 11 guys from the Campbell era on active rosters. That’s over 9 seasons. The percentage of guys who make it to the pros is miniscule.
WRONG!!
NCAA rules have nothing to do with LEGALITY. He can legally do it, but it is against NCAA rules, two very different things.
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College sports may be inherently competitive (I'd argue that many other industries are too) but they don't care a lick about competitive balance. The best players go to the best teams, very consistently. There's zero interest in a level playing field among schools, except when it comes to compensation for their labor. Then, suddenly "competitive balance" is imperative. It's an absolute sham. College athletics needs to play by the same rules as everyone else. Nothing about it is so special or sacred to warrant special treatment. It's a money making business, and has been for a long time. All of the NCAA's arguments amount to little more than window dressing.
At the end of the day, the headline here is: "Employee takes better job for more money"
It's not that complicated. Happens every single day in the real world.
