UNLV QB is leaving the program immediately due to the school not withholding NIL commitments

[Mr Janny]

How many of these kids bouncing from school to school are getting degrees from anywhere? We all like the myth of these kids getting an education, while playing for the school. Problem is for at least half of the these kids, that is all it is a myth.

Who cares, though? These are legal adults. They can make their own choices. Thousands of other college students transfer to different schools all of the time. College isn't for everyone. That's just life.

 

[fsanford]

Maybe the deal was based on TD passes.. Or passing yards per game

 

[AllInForISU]

FA. That's the key here.

All players are a free agent. A career could end at any time.

Bad optics? Sure.
Good business? Very possible.

Brave New World

This isn’t free agency. This is sitting out of a contract he signed (scholarship) until it expires. If this were free agency he could be playing for any other team next week.

They should be able to revoke his scholarship and make him pay to finish the semester.

 

[CYphyllis]

How many of these kids bouncing from school to school are getting degrees from anywhere? We all like the myth of these kids getting an education, while playing for the school. Problem is for at least half of the these kids, that is all it is a myth.

Do we?

Some people like to tell themselves that, but at the end of the day the vast majority don't really give a ****.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Because he legally cannot have an offer for more money. He has rumors of potentially having a better offer next year. This is like you quitting your job after giving your current job an ultimatum based on a salary you might be able to get next year.

Also until the college students are actually employees, you can't really compare the two.

Why? Because the schools don't want it? Don't give me that tampering ********. Schools have been pushing athletes around for generations. NCAA could have addressed this crap at any point before it got here. They didn't.

 

[AuH2O]

Do you think NFL contracts are “clear written agreements“? NFL players hold out all the time for new contracts and it lasts more than 15 minutes. To me this feels like the college version of holding out.

It's similar, but in the NFL it's transparent. A player doesn't show up to OTAs, holds out, etc, there are clear penalties for it. The player has that choice, and the team has penalties for it. So while a player is holding out for a new contract, both parties are really still operating under the original contract, where it's clearly spelled out what the player misses out on if he doesn't play or practice.

This is at worst verbals that lead to he said-he said arguments. There may be really detailed and elaborate agreements for NIL out there that spell out every detail and contingency. But I don't know.

Eventually this will either get to a point of really detailed contracts like the NFL, or it will keep blowing up in schools, players, and collectives faces.

 

[Mr Janny]

I guess my question to you is: "would you prefer all professional sports did away with any competitive balance agreements?" And if so would you still watch a product where the Yankees would win every game they played for the next 15 years?

Alabama is 199-23 over the last 16 years.
90% win rate.
People clearly will watch. Competitive balance arguments can get ****ed.

 

[Cydwinder]

Why not? Promises were unfulfilled. Can't blame him for walking away.

True that we don’t know the whole story but my first thought is he is backing out because someone came with a bigger offer mid-season. It very well could be the other way that UNLV didn’t pay too which again isn’t a good look for them.

 

[KnappShack]

This isn’t free agency. This is sitting out of a contract he signed (scholarship) until it expires. If this were free agency he could be playing for any other team next week.

They should be able to revoke his scholarship and make him pay to finish the semester.

You sure we don't have a breach of contract?

UNLV doesn't live up to their end then I'm FA all day

 

[Die4Cy]

This is the worst of all worlds. In my mind that's a good thing as it will lead to a quicker resolution overall. It's a collective action problem so the more losers in the process the better!

 

[BryceC]

Highly unlikely that UNLV and their collective broke any promises. Odom would have got them fixed if that was truly the case.

This is tampering by another school for more money and that is where the kid will play next season.

There is literally no way you can know this.

 

[fsanford]

By the way if there was no written agreement before he enrolled the kid still got a very very valuable education.

Good god how can you enroll without an agreement?

 

[Rabbuk]

Feel like kid probably blew the money on something dumb and told his dad he never got it and it spiraled out from there. Assuming unlv isn't lying off their ass about money being paid.

 

[CloneJD]

What kind of ****** player agent doesn’t get a signed contract with the NIL. He might have some liability here too.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

This is the worst of all worlds. In my mind that's a good thing as it will lead to a quicker resolution overall. It's a collective action problem so the more losers in the process the better!

Agreed but it needs to happen to bigger schools than UNLV. Happened a bit at Miami but everyone knew that was a scumbag situation so again didn’t move the needle

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Feel like kid probably blew the money on something dumb and told his dad he never got it and it spiraled out from there. Assuming unlv isn't lying off their ass about money being paid.

That’s a take out if right field

 

[BryceC]

And you really think that is what happened?

Isn’t it reasonable to say that nobody knows what’s happened?

 

[Die4Cy]

Football. FREE AGENTS RUINED THE GOD DAMNED GAME!

 

[BryceC]

Most of these kids are not getting degrees, the student/athlete has been a joke for years. Most of them are majoring in eligiblity, taking enough classes so they can play sports. Talking about the football and MBB teams here, less than half will get a degree, we celebrate those that do, and never talk about the ones that don't.

84% of all FBS football players graduate as of 2023.

 

[fsanford]

Feel like kid probably blew the money on something dumb and told his dad he never got it and it spiraled out from there. Assuming unlv isn't lying off their ass about money being paid.

It is Vegas I am half joking lots of ways lose money quickly here