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UNLV QB is leaving the program immediately due to the school not withholding NIL commitments

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AuH2O said:
Schools like ISU screwed themselves back around when Northwestern was trying to organize. Pollard and other ADs made a false choice. They thought the status quo was possible, and anybody with a brain new it was going to change.

All the non-blueblood programs should have been out front on this and pushed the following:
- Make athletes employees
- Let them organize and collectively bargain
- Pay them fairly hefty stipends
- Offer good health benefits, support for insurance if injured, etc.
- In exchange, agree that there are restrictions to what they can claim independently from NIL. This one would have been tough in court, but it could've held up. First, if this is in exchange for good pay and benefits a majority of athletes that aren't highly marketable superstars would support it. Second, the schools have legit claim that the association with their sports teams drives the NIL value.

Non-blueblood schools would all be way better off. A vast majority of athletes would've been better off. This would've been absolutely supported by the public.
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They were too afraid that the B1G and SEC would go on their own but financially they basically already have. This is why I almost always side with the players now. The schools have done nothing to better the situation.
 
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That’s the same as it has been for us though. I think we’d all be shocked at how much a lot of our players could make on the open market and were likely offered by other teams.

If this fairly unproven guy at unlv thinks they promised him $100k, then I bet 15 of our guys had offers that exceeded that.
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I’m worried what Iowa might throw at Moberly. But that’s the game we’re in nowadays…. might as well get used to it.
 
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AuH2O said:
Schools like ISU screwed themselves back around when Northwestern was trying to organize. Pollard and other ADs made a false choice. They thought the status quo was possible, and anybody with a brain new it was going to change.

All the non-blueblood programs should have been out front on this and pushed the following:
- Make athletes employees
- Let them organize and collectively bargain
- Pay them fairly hefty stipends
- Offer good health benefits, support for insurance if injured, etc.
- In exchange, agree that there are restrictions to what they can claim independently from NIL. This one would have been tough in court, but it could've held up. First, if this is in exchange for good pay and benefits a majority of athletes that aren't highly marketable superstars would support it. Second, the schools have legit claim that the association with their sports teams drives the NIL value.

Non-blueblood schools would all be way better off. A vast majority of athletes would've been better off. This would've been absolutely supported by the public.
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You really think schools like ISU can afford to offer that for athletes across all sports?
 
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I'd argue that the product isn't a competitive game, it's a winning program. Nebraska, over the last decade, has lost a ton of competitive games, but their consumers have made it clear that they don't want that. They want to win.
Iowa, under Kirk, is in competitive games more often than not, and a sizable number of their consumers are absolutely ready for a change.
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Have they though? I get it, it's sports and the casual fan is more likely to tune into a program they have some rooting interest in if they are winning. But it took all of like 5 seconds to find an article on the athletic talking about how Nebraska's brand has taken a slight hit but ultimately weathered the storm and is still a top brand after multiple losing season, hell last week they just celebrated their 400th(?) consecutive sell out. So I do think there is more nuance to this discussion and there needs to be some guardrails that allow for proper compensation to the players and availability in a so called free market while still honoring the overall competitiveness that we all love to see in sports.
 
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clonedude said:
I’m worried what Iowa might throw at Moberly. But that’s the game we’re in nowadays…. might as well get used to it.
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It's honestly why I so much appreciate what Campbell has built and how we approach NIL. We will drum up some money for guys who have other options. But if you are only wanting to be here for the money, there's probably a better home for you.
 
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Gonzo said:
Anywhere. FSU to coach. Retire for a few years and get a job in broadcasting. Whatever. Him taking the CU job was 100% about positioning his son for the NFL draft. There's no way he sticks around after his sons are through. And CU will be screwed.
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FSU is stupid, I know, but they aren't hiring Deion after he goes 5-7 or whatever.
 
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Gonzo said:
Yep. I won't be surprised one bit if/when the story comes out about Shedeur being bankrupt.

Imagine the mood at CU in a few years when Prime's kids are through and he bolts for greener pastures. He's using that university like a rented mule.
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Nah he did the bankruptcy process to avoid some obligation, can’t remember what it was but it’s just someone who the money manipulating the system
 
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Hubbs4cy said:
Have they though? I get it, it's sports and the casual fan is more likely to tune into a program they have some rooting interest in if they are winning. But it took all of like 5 seconds to find an article on the athletic talking about how Nebraska's brand has taken a slight hit but ultimately weathered the storm and is still a top brand after multiple losing season, hell last week they just celebrated their 400th(?) consecutive sell out. So I do think there is more nuance to this discussion and there needs to be some guardrails that allow for proper compensation to the players and availability in a so called free market while still honoring the overall competitiveness that we all love to see in sports.
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If selling bulk tickets at a discount that are not used then I guess it is a sellout.
 
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FriendlySpartan said:
Nah he did the bankruptcy process to avoid some obligation, can’t remember what it was but it’s just someone who the money manipulating the system
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Yeah I don't doubt that, I'm just personally not sold on Shedeur's NFL future. He'll be a relatively high pick but I think he crashes and burns big time once in the league and I see him as someone who probably isn't terribly smart about future financial planning.
 
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